Most of these are cloud seeding, meaning that they deploy ultra-fine particles into the air at high altitude. Water vapor condenses around the particles forming clouds which then leads to precipitation in upwind areas. On the first page of the results alone, you'll see a bunch of ski resorts using it to try and increase snow pack.
Homeboy TikToker was emoting and didn't bother to inform himself much before posting his emotional reaction.
Edit: someone beat me to it. Gotta love the research frens here! Strong work!
Moar! This project may be of particular interest. It's the result of newer research efforts going back to the Obama years and it's goal is to "fight climate change" which is very different from the old school cloud seeding projects to try and improve rain for farmers.
This is Harvard's page on the topic. It links to some of their big name professors and their projects. These are ongoing now with the full knowledge and approval of the US government.
Most of the other stuff they link to is social science: how to convince people to support this stuff, how to talk to people about it, how to get it into gov't policy of various countries, etc. Surprisingly, not nearly as much hard science and technical focus as I would expect - but then again, it's Harvard and politics seems to be about all the really want to do these days.
Final post here. I'm going down a rabbit hole chasing the physics and chemistry of the various particles and methods they're trying to modify the weather in various ways. It's certainly interesting from a scientific point of view, and a nice test to see if I can remember some of my undergraduate work.
These people are talking huge money for these projects, very large scales. They're testing on small scales of course because novelty demands caution. They're afraid of causing a disaster (and rightfully so). I just wish they don't succeed. So much of the temperature increase they're trying to correct for is an artifact of the urban heat island effect. They take thermometer data from sites in urban environments, sited in concrete jungles, surrounded by burning fossils fuels, HVAC systems, and vehicle exhaust and ignore all of those biases. They have stripped away about half of the weather stations now, mostly from rural areas that actually provide good quality, reliable long-term data and homogenized it with the urban data that's running hot because it reflects the totality of human activity in cities. They then craft those red-hot maps and hockey stick trend lines that terrify everyone who doesn't know enough or care enough to dig in and see how they managed the scam. If it were a student's work, I'd chalk it up to inexperience. They don't necessarily think to go back to the fundamentals and think about siting and confounding factors like that new parking lot or the A/C unit exhausting right onto the instrument box that was installed 10 years ago or the effects of that new airport's service lines and those constantly overflying jets. You have to have some years under your belt to really appreciate that sort of detail. But these are the experienced professors with the big names pushing this stuff. Sure, the students are the lead authors, but the corresponding authors are their supervising professors with hundreds of papers to their names....
We're wasting billions of dollars on efforts that are totally unnecessary because we're trying to correct an effect that is only there on paper because of fraud.
Yes, I’ve heard that they’ve been taking temperatures from the tarmacs of airports, to use that is fear porn on the weather channel across the nation. Then they post everything and red, to scare people. It’s a big psyop.
Nothing new here. In fact, this has been a subject of experimentation since the 40s. NOAA documents the legally authorized projects in the US here:
https://libguides.library.noaa.gov/weather-climate/weather-modification-project-reports
Most of these are cloud seeding, meaning that they deploy ultra-fine particles into the air at high altitude. Water vapor condenses around the particles forming clouds which then leads to precipitation in upwind areas. On the first page of the results alone, you'll see a bunch of ski resorts using it to try and increase snow pack.
Homeboy TikToker was emoting and didn't bother to inform himself much before posting his emotional reaction.
Edit: someone beat me to it. Gotta love the research frens here! Strong work!
Moar! This project may be of particular interest. It's the result of newer research efforts going back to the Obama years and it's goal is to "fight climate change" which is very different from the old school cloud seeding projects to try and improve rain for farmers.
This is Harvard's page on the topic. It links to some of their big name professors and their projects. These are ongoing now with the full knowledge and approval of the US government.
https://geoengineering.environment.harvard.edu/
This project involves a safety test of calcium carbonate particles to improve ozone formation in the stratosphere. https://www.nature.com/articles/s43247-020-00058-7
Most of the other stuff they link to is social science: how to convince people to support this stuff, how to talk to people about it, how to get it into gov't policy of various countries, etc. Surprisingly, not nearly as much hard science and technical focus as I would expect - but then again, it's Harvard and politics seems to be about all the really want to do these days.
Final post here. I'm going down a rabbit hole chasing the physics and chemistry of the various particles and methods they're trying to modify the weather in various ways. It's certainly interesting from a scientific point of view, and a nice test to see if I can remember some of my undergraduate work.
These people are talking huge money for these projects, very large scales. They're testing on small scales of course because novelty demands caution. They're afraid of causing a disaster (and rightfully so). I just wish they don't succeed. So much of the temperature increase they're trying to correct for is an artifact of the urban heat island effect. They take thermometer data from sites in urban environments, sited in concrete jungles, surrounded by burning fossils fuels, HVAC systems, and vehicle exhaust and ignore all of those biases. They have stripped away about half of the weather stations now, mostly from rural areas that actually provide good quality, reliable long-term data and homogenized it with the urban data that's running hot because it reflects the totality of human activity in cities. They then craft those red-hot maps and hockey stick trend lines that terrify everyone who doesn't know enough or care enough to dig in and see how they managed the scam. If it were a student's work, I'd chalk it up to inexperience. They don't necessarily think to go back to the fundamentals and think about siting and confounding factors like that new parking lot or the A/C unit exhausting right onto the instrument box that was installed 10 years ago or the effects of that new airport's service lines and those constantly overflying jets. You have to have some years under your belt to really appreciate that sort of detail. But these are the experienced professors with the big names pushing this stuff. Sure, the students are the lead authors, but the corresponding authors are their supervising professors with hundreds of papers to their names....
We're wasting billions of dollars on efforts that are totally unnecessary because we're trying to correct an effect that is only there on paper because of fraud.
Yes, I’ve heard that they’ve been taking temperatures from the tarmacs of airports, to use that is fear porn on the weather channel across the nation. Then they post everything and red, to scare people. It’s a big psyop.
Thanks for your contribution information.
So easy to hide nefarious intent behind 'its cloud seeding, weve been doing it for decades!'