The old testament is the account of what God went through to bring Jesus Christ while working with fallen man. If you try to live under the law then all of Christ works are nullified. Jesus has made us free from the law of sin and death. Romans states the old testament is for our learning those very things. The church epistles from romans to Thessalonians are the doctrinal epistles we are to renew our minds to. That is where the more than abundant life that Christ said in John 10:10 is taught as we align our minds with the spiritual realities Christ accomplished for us. We serve a Risen Savior.
I've been struggling to get through the old testament. Like 35 hours in and the old testament is highly repetitive. Looking forward to the new testament because I'm sure this religion has some redeeming qualities later in the book else why would it still be around? A theory of mine is Jesus was too good so the authors of the old testament couldn't beat him so they had him crucified and then assimilated his lectures into the old testaments consolidating powers to make the control structure more peaceful appearing.
My biggest gripe with the old testament is god never reveals himself . hasn't for like thousands of years. But with his buddy Moses? Moses would like snap his fingers and god would be there. Somebody working on the sabbath? God appears says stone him, somebody not having faith in front of god? God sends a fiery tornado down on him. Kids making fun of bald Jews? God sends bears down to maul those kids. God was truly omnipresent.
But nowadays, or let's say last 3000 years or so god just doesn't show up for Any reason. Not even the holocaust, holodomir, Ziltch. The opposite of omnipresent, god is now nonexistant.
So the second half of this book better be incredible because the first half reads like a horror movie where you can point out the murderer but the folks on the movie keep falling into the same trap.
For what its worth I love the gospel of John, great accounts and parables/analogies. I do believe in a unified god, just the old dogma is incredibly bitter pill to swallow and makes little sense. I'm gonna continue on the bible and hopefully it makes a combeback in the second half.
I just finished the Old Testament. It took me 2 years. Genealogy was the hardest for me. The repetition, as I understand it, was purposely done to stress an important point. Sometimes dry, sometimes mind blowing, and 100% about the coming of the future Messiah. The typology is what blows my mind…simply amazing how intelligent God is.
I don’t understand your viewpoint that God didn’t reveal Himself in the OT. That is all He did, over and over again. Adam & Eve, Abraham, Lot, Noah, Enoch, David, Solomon, etc, etc. God also revealed Himself through His Prophets. You may want to revisit this.
I'm saying god hasn't appears in 3000 years but he was at the whim of moses. It reeks of a created god utilized for manipulation. If god was real why doesn't he respect us as much as he did the old Jews? Surely once every X amount of years he should show up be hes like nah O loved moses more than and of you children in the last 3000 years sorry. but I already read the part of the bible that said basically, "thats the last time god ever really knew and talked to a human" (In reference to Moses, how convenient)
Said differently it's hard to be judged by my merit in belief when the Jews of old had meetings with god on the weekly, and my whole life I have seen no proof of the (old testment god).
To burn me for not believing but to save Jews who were shown multiple times over the course of a life the literal power of god via all his terrible wonders is hypocrisy, unfair, unjust, etc.
I'd surmise the reason god hasn't appeared is because god essentially cannot appear on this plane of existence. Accounts of his appearance prior are due to likely psychoactive substances and trance states that feed off the subconscious. Combine that with alliances of folks who seek control and you've got yourself the first form of government that could cross nation barriers and draft an army for God.
All that being said I'm going to keep reading, I really have to see the transition to the new testament. IMO it looks like the new testament or the power structure that holds it is still corrupt. Not many folks trust the pope. I'm not saying the subject it is writing about is corrupt, just their interpretation of it is corrupt similar to how the media spins topics.
The old testament is the account of what God went through to bring Jesus Christ while working with fallen man. If you try to live under the law then all of Christ works are nullified. Jesus has made us free from the law of sin and death. Romans states the old testament is for our learning those very things. The church epistles from romans to Thessalonians are the doctrinal epistles we are to renew our minds to. That is where the more than abundant life that Christ said in John 10:10 is taught as we align our minds with the spiritual realities Christ accomplished for us. We serve a Risen Savior.
Because Church Leaders like the Pharisees were not corrupt ? Like today ?
Sometimes it's not what was put into a written work , but what was left out.
I've been struggling to get through the old testament. Like 35 hours in and the old testament is highly repetitive. Looking forward to the new testament because I'm sure this religion has some redeeming qualities later in the book else why would it still be around? A theory of mine is Jesus was too good so the authors of the old testament couldn't beat him so they had him crucified and then assimilated his lectures into the old testaments consolidating powers to make the control structure more peaceful appearing.
My biggest gripe with the old testament is god never reveals himself . hasn't for like thousands of years. But with his buddy Moses? Moses would like snap his fingers and god would be there. Somebody working on the sabbath? God appears says stone him, somebody not having faith in front of god? God sends a fiery tornado down on him. Kids making fun of bald Jews? God sends bears down to maul those kids. God was truly omnipresent.
But nowadays, or let's say last 3000 years or so god just doesn't show up for Any reason. Not even the holocaust, holodomir, Ziltch. The opposite of omnipresent, god is now nonexistant.
So the second half of this book better be incredible because the first half reads like a horror movie where you can point out the murderer but the folks on the movie keep falling into the same trap.
For what its worth I love the gospel of John, great accounts and parables/analogies. I do believe in a unified god, just the old dogma is incredibly bitter pill to swallow and makes little sense. I'm gonna continue on the bible and hopefully it makes a combeback in the second half.
I just finished the Old Testament. It took me 2 years. Genealogy was the hardest for me. The repetition, as I understand it, was purposely done to stress an important point. Sometimes dry, sometimes mind blowing, and 100% about the coming of the future Messiah. The typology is what blows my mind…simply amazing how intelligent God is.
I don’t understand your viewpoint that God didn’t reveal Himself in the OT. That is all He did, over and over again. Adam & Eve, Abraham, Lot, Noah, Enoch, David, Solomon, etc, etc. God also revealed Himself through His Prophets. You may want to revisit this.
Good luck on your journey.
I'm saying god hasn't appears in 3000 years but he was at the whim of moses. It reeks of a created god utilized for manipulation. If god was real why doesn't he respect us as much as he did the old Jews? Surely once every X amount of years he should show up be hes like nah O loved moses more than and of you children in the last 3000 years sorry. but I already read the part of the bible that said basically, "thats the last time god ever really knew and talked to a human" (In reference to Moses, how convenient)
Said differently it's hard to be judged by my merit in belief when the Jews of old had meetings with god on the weekly, and my whole life I have seen no proof of the (old testment god).
To burn me for not believing but to save Jews who were shown multiple times over the course of a life the literal power of god via all his terrible wonders is hypocrisy, unfair, unjust, etc.
I'd surmise the reason god hasn't appeared is because god essentially cannot appear on this plane of existence. Accounts of his appearance prior are due to likely psychoactive substances and trance states that feed off the subconscious. Combine that with alliances of folks who seek control and you've got yourself the first form of government that could cross nation barriers and draft an army for God.
All that being said I'm going to keep reading, I really have to see the transition to the new testament. IMO it looks like the new testament or the power structure that holds it is still corrupt. Not many folks trust the pope. I'm not saying the subject it is writing about is corrupt, just their interpretation of it is corrupt similar to how the media spins topics.