Welcome to General Chat - GAW Community Area
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How are taxes unconstitutional? Was talking to my mother about this but I am ill informed
Originally the Constitution gave Congress the power "to lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States" in article 1 Section 8. This link has the full text as well as context and history. https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/article-1/section-8/clause-1/
The original Constitution didn't have an income tax but the 16th amendment explicitly gives Congress the legal right to impose and collect an income tax.
This link explains the history of it. https://www.reaganlibrary.gov/constitutional-amendments-amendment-16-income-taxes#:~:text=Amendment%20Sixteen%20to%20the%20Constitution,determine%20it%20based%20on%20population.
There are people that argue that it's unconditional, but if they aren't paying taxes they are absolutely breaking the law and if the IRS ever audits them they'll be in for a world of hurt. Even Benjamin Franklin said the only things that are certain in life are death and taxes. Please, for your and your family's sake, pay your taxes. Anyone that tells you that you don't have to is either very wrong or intentionally lying to you.