What does it matter as long as the job gets done? People aren't more efficient at their jobs when they sit in an office surrounded by other employees. They just become creative at pretending to be busy.
The only people I really see pushing to get people back in offices are middle managers. Those people who don't have much of a job other than babysitting grown ass people.
I've found that my productivity goes down when I work in an office because of all the Chatty Cathies who want to gossip, or want me to sing Happy Birthday to Bob, or ask me for help fixing their printer (ffs, just turn it off and back on. Problem fixed.) And of course there are all the meetings called by middle managers to go over what we did last week, what we're doing this week, and what we will do next week. All of which are either pointless or could be covered in a brief email that takes 2 minutes to read rather than the hour scheduled to suffer through it.
It's weird how I see people arguing against wage slave mentality here and then something like this pops up, which is the epitome of being a wage slave.
Does it hurt your feelings that I'm a responsible adult and am able to get my work done without some middle manager drone staring over my shoulder all day?
Or are you angry that people are screwing with your precious 9 to 5 ideology?
Again, if the job is getting done, what business is it of yours that someone is taking an hour or so in the middle of the day to get some fresh air and get their vitamin D levels up?
And if the job isn't getting done, it's because the middle management drone isn't doing his job.
During covid,a lot of our office workers worked from home, they didn't do shit,our payroll was messed up and lots of other problems. Their no doubt about plenty of guys tell us their wife or other family member doesn't do shit at home.
And the majority of people working in offices aren't like me, either. But you're not complaining about them jumping on the computer during their workday to get online to argue with strangers, or play solitare, or just constantly click "refresh" on their email so they look busy.
You're penalizing people who are able to work without a nanny and who are intelligent enough to figure out how to do their work more efficiently so it takes them less time so they can get some fresh air and boost their vitamin D during the day.
I really don't get the hostility towards them. The more responses I get, the more it seems that the people arguing with me are all either retired or close to retirement and are angry that they didn't have the opportunities people have today.
It's silly.
You all would rather people be miserable, holed up in some florescent hell hole, pretending to work instead of just doing their job and having time left over to enjoy a nice sunny day for an hour or so.
Again, it's silly
Edited to add: It's also rather telling about your work ethic when you assume people working remotely aren't doing their job.
When people don't have a point of reference for something they automatically apply their own principles to what they imagine others doing.
What does it matter as long as the job gets done? People aren't more efficient at their jobs when they sit in an office surrounded by other employees. They just become creative at pretending to be busy.
The only people I really see pushing to get people back in offices are middle managers. Those people who don't have much of a job other than babysitting grown ass people.
I've found that my productivity goes down when I work in an office because of all the Chatty Cathies who want to gossip, or want me to sing Happy Birthday to Bob, or ask me for help fixing their printer (ffs, just turn it off and back on. Problem fixed.) And of course there are all the meetings called by middle managers to go over what we did last week, what we're doing this week, and what we will do next week. All of which are either pointless or could be covered in a brief email that takes 2 minutes to read rather than the hour scheduled to suffer through it.
It's weird how I see people arguing against wage slave mentality here and then something like this pops up, which is the epitome of being a wage slave.
You can tell this bloke sun tans at 2pm on a Tuesday
Does it hurt your feelings that I'm a responsible adult and am able to get my work done without some middle manager drone staring over my shoulder all day?
Or are you angry that people are screwing with your precious 9 to 5 ideology?
Again, if the job is getting done, what business is it of yours that someone is taking an hour or so in the middle of the day to get some fresh air and get their vitamin D levels up?
And if the job isn't getting done, it's because the middle management drone isn't doing his job.
You know as well as I do that the majority of people are not like you. You give most people an opportunity to be lazy, and they'll take it.
Not sure why you're dying on this hill.
During covid,a lot of our office workers worked from home, they didn't do shit,our payroll was messed up and lots of other problems. Their no doubt about plenty of guys tell us their wife or other family member doesn't do shit at home.
And the majority of people working in offices aren't like me, either. But you're not complaining about them jumping on the computer during their workday to get online to argue with strangers, or play solitare, or just constantly click "refresh" on their email so they look busy.
You're penalizing people who are able to work without a nanny and who are intelligent enough to figure out how to do their work more efficiently so it takes them less time so they can get some fresh air and boost their vitamin D during the day.
I really don't get the hostility towards them. The more responses I get, the more it seems that the people arguing with me are all either retired or close to retirement and are angry that they didn't have the opportunities people have today.
It's silly.
You all would rather people be miserable, holed up in some florescent hell hole, pretending to work instead of just doing their job and having time left over to enjoy a nice sunny day for an hour or so.
Again, it's silly
Edited to add: It's also rather telling about your work ethic when you assume people working remotely aren't doing their job.
When people don't have a point of reference for something they automatically apply their own principles to what they imagine others doing.