54% of children are suffering from a chronic illness
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I think you need to re-read the conversation. Don't get defensive. Don't try to squeeze other topics into the conversation. Don't assume my stance on the topic.
Just try to re-read the conversation and understand what I'm saying.
It's a simple matter of order of events.
You can't have an increased rate of cure (or treatment) without there being an increased rate of diagnosis first. Because without a diagnosis, how do you know what to cure (or treat)?
I am not upset, or defensive. I'm not passive aggressive either. I have make no assumptions or spoke for you.
I understand that to make the chart we are discussion disease has to be diagnosed.
You stated better screening might account for this.
My response is you dont screen kids for cardiac or cancer. So probably not.
I didn't make that clear and I apologize for that.
Ok, let's just do a brief recap here because I think it's important to clear up some misunderstanding.
A different poster (not me) suggested that higher/better rates of detection of diseases could account for higher rates of things like autism/asthma.
You responded to them with : "With better detection should come a better cure rate. Reducing these numbers."
I pointed out that in order to have better cure rates for these issues, a cure would have to exist first. As far as I am aware, there is no cure to asthma or autism (which were the disorders being mentioned in the conversation).
You responded with: "That should come with earlier detection. Its much easier to treat early rather than late. Cancer survivability have improved a lot with early detection."
So you've shifted the conversation from a cure, to treatment (which is different than being a cure) and have added cancer into the discussion.
I responded by asking what the cures for those diseases were, and pointed out that in order to have a higher cure rate, you would first need a diagnosis. So there is no way that you can have a lower diagnosis rate than a cure rate, because in order to have the latter, you first need the former.
You responded with: "Do you think that that autism or allergies went undiagnosed in recent years? Only to be recognized now with better testing? How does that explain the cancer and heart disease increases? The cancer stat in the chart is for increased deaths."
So instead of answering my question about what the cures were for these diseases, you've shifted the conversation from cure rates to autism/asthma to asking me to defend a stance I've not expressed (that cases of autism/allergies had been going undetected) and then introduced cancer and heart disease into the conversation.
I respond by asking you to re-read the conversation, being mindful of not having preconceived notions of what I'm saying. And then I again point out that you can't have higher cure rates than diagnosis rates, because in order to have higher cure rates, you need a diagnosis for what needs curing in the first place.
So now you've responded by saying that I stated better screening was responsible for higher diagnosis rates. Which I never did. You're confusing me with another poster here.
It's really quite simple.
So it's impossible to have a higher cure rate for these diseases, because there are no cures to them.
And 2: It's impossible to have a higher cure rate for a disease than you would have a diagnosis rate. Because you need to first have a diagnosis of a disease before you know what to cure.
So, there it is. I don't know exactly where the breakdown in communication happened, but hopefully this cleared up any misunderstanding. Because I'd hate for you to have this type of misunderstanding when arguing with a normie, because that would only convince them even more that there aren't any strong arguments against vaccines.