Are we talking about eliminating it in name or spirit, or actually getting the government out of education?
Because if it's just to eliminate the Department of Education as a cabinet level department, then all Congress has to do is vote to "abolish" the department, and then move people and funding around to different agencies in the state and federal level. Which will be one giant clusterfuck.
But to get the government out of education all together? I don't think it's possible. The President isn't a dictator. If Trump just decided he could get the government out of the educational system with an Executive Order (which I'm not sure is even legal), he's going to have a horrible time ever getting Congress to negotiate with him in the future.
It makes me wonder if Trump could just eliminate the Department of Education with an executive order, or anything similar, why didn't he do it his first term? He's been saying he was going to eliminate it back in 2016. Or any time since, for those who think he's secretly still the President?
And what would be stopping the next Democrat president (or Biden, for those who think he's really the President) from making Executive Orders to undo every single thing they could that Trump accomplished?
From everything I've read (and it's been a good bit), there is really no way for him to just eliminate the federal government from being involved with the education system.
But if there is one, please share. Because it would be really nice if it wasn't just all wishful thinking.
I'm not getting my hopes up until someone can point out a legal path he could take that would actually do all this.
PS, I'd love to see how the people who use the school system as free child care will cope with having to parent and educate their kids.
I don't think Trump would say he will do it if he can't do it. He is not getting government out of education, just the federal government. Education is supposed to be a state function and it has only gone downhill since Jimmy Carter created the Dept of Education.
I know people aren't going to like what I'm about to say, but frankly, Trump has promised to do many things he was ultimately unable to do.
Build a border wall between the United States and Mexico to curb illegal immigration, and have Mexico pay for it.
Repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act (Obamacare) with a better healthcare plan.
Implement significant tax cuts, including cutting the corporate tax rate.
Renegotiate trade deals, including withdrawing from or renegotiating NAFTA and the Trans-Pacific Partnership.
Bring back manufacturing jobs to the United States.
Implement stricter immigration policies, including a temporary ban on Muslims entering the United States.
Invest in infrastructure projects to create jobs and improve the country's infrastructure.
Strengthen the military and increase defense spending.
He was never capable of completing these promises.
Typically, when this is pointed out, people will come to his defense by saying Congress wouldn't work with him and blocked him from doing these things.
And that's exactly what we're talking about here. The promises he makes are impossible without support from Congress. He can't do it himself.
So why do you think he'll be able to get Congress to do what he wants this time? What has changed?
Edited to add: This is not an attack on President Trump. I'm not blaming him for any of the outcomes of those promises. But they did happen.
People really need to be a bit more realistic. I think there are too many people who are basing their expectations on things that simply can not happen. It's nothing but empty wishes.
I think this is why many people eventually turn away from Q. They keep getting their hopes up over and over again just to constantly be disappointed. There's only so much of that people can take before they just give up.
I'm not saying don't have hope. I'm saying, don't just think something will happen simply because you want it to. Be realistic in your hopes. Don't hope something will happen that legally can not happen. Do some basic research on it. Find out what the law is concerning what you're hoping for. Don't just believe everything you read that makes you feel good.
And how is he going to do that? I mean, what legal maneuvers does he have that will allow that?
He can't just wave a wand and poof!, it's gone.
Yes he can. The dept. of Education is part of the executive branch. Was only created 50 yrs. ago under democrat Jimmy Carter.
Ok, how exactly?
Are we talking about eliminating it in name or spirit, or actually getting the government out of education?
Because if it's just to eliminate the Department of Education as a cabinet level department, then all Congress has to do is vote to "abolish" the department, and then move people and funding around to different agencies in the state and federal level. Which will be one giant clusterfuck.
But to get the government out of education all together? I don't think it's possible. The President isn't a dictator. If Trump just decided he could get the government out of the educational system with an Executive Order (which I'm not sure is even legal), he's going to have a horrible time ever getting Congress to negotiate with him in the future.
It makes me wonder if Trump could just eliminate the Department of Education with an executive order, or anything similar, why didn't he do it his first term? He's been saying he was going to eliminate it back in 2016. Or any time since, for those who think he's secretly still the President?
And what would be stopping the next Democrat president (or Biden, for those who think he's really the President) from making Executive Orders to undo every single thing they could that Trump accomplished?
From everything I've read (and it's been a good bit), there is really no way for him to just eliminate the federal government from being involved with the education system.
But if there is one, please share. Because it would be really nice if it wasn't just all wishful thinking.
I'm not getting my hopes up until someone can point out a legal path he could take that would actually do all this.
PS, I'd love to see how the people who use the school system as free child care will cope with having to parent and educate their kids.
I don't think Trump would say he will do it if he can't do it. He is not getting government out of education, just the federal government. Education is supposed to be a state function and it has only gone downhill since Jimmy Carter created the Dept of Education.
I know people aren't going to like what I'm about to say, but frankly, Trump has promised to do many things he was ultimately unable to do.
Build a border wall between the United States and Mexico to curb illegal immigration, and have Mexico pay for it.
Repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act (Obamacare) with a better healthcare plan.
Implement significant tax cuts, including cutting the corporate tax rate.
Renegotiate trade deals, including withdrawing from or renegotiating NAFTA and the Trans-Pacific Partnership.
Bring back manufacturing jobs to the United States.
Implement stricter immigration policies, including a temporary ban on Muslims entering the United States.
Invest in infrastructure projects to create jobs and improve the country's infrastructure.
Strengthen the military and increase defense spending.
He was never capable of completing these promises.
Typically, when this is pointed out, people will come to his defense by saying Congress wouldn't work with him and blocked him from doing these things.
And that's exactly what we're talking about here. The promises he makes are impossible without support from Congress. He can't do it himself.
So why do you think he'll be able to get Congress to do what he wants this time? What has changed?
Edited to add: This is not an attack on President Trump. I'm not blaming him for any of the outcomes of those promises. But they did happen.
People really need to be a bit more realistic. I think there are too many people who are basing their expectations on things that simply can not happen. It's nothing but empty wishes.
I think this is why many people eventually turn away from Q. They keep getting their hopes up over and over again just to constantly be disappointed. There's only so much of that people can take before they just give up.
I'm not saying don't have hope. I'm saying, don't just think something will happen simply because you want it to. Be realistic in your hopes. Don't hope something will happen that legally can not happen. Do some basic research on it. Find out what the law is concerning what you're hoping for. Don't just believe everything you read that makes you feel good.
Earn that "elite research board" title.