Im not proclaiming to be an expert in the region, however I am learning quite a bit so Im not going to be able to convince anyone of anything.
Before Oct 7 I was mainly neutral on Israel as a country THOUGH,, .I STILL always took their side when I heard about their Gaza skirmishes....after all we have been propagandized to death about the "filthy mooslims", so they are easy to see as the enemy.
After Oct 7 is when I started to really dig into what is going on there and from those findings I have changed my position. I have learned about the evil nature of those that created and run this "country" and the tricks that they have employed over time to divide people in their never ending conquest for dominion over the rest of the World.
I have no issue with Jews other than Jewish people who talk that chosen one crap or Jews that refuse to call out evil people just because they are supposedly Jewish......I have no problem with Muslims as a whole though I just dont have much in common with them in general so therefore very few have found their way into my circle over the years.
Also note that I dont question people about things like jobs, religion and such when meeting them, I prefer to hear what they have to say first before attaching a label so I could hang out with someone multiple times before even knowing about these affiliations if they dont bring it up first.
Not sure if I answered your question but these are my thoughts.
I am in that place of researching. The biggest issue is that I am limited on time. Over the last few decades, I have followed the persecuted Church closely, so I can speak to that. In that process, I have learned about the the Muslim religion. There is a book that I hope to read called Islam Uncensored which interviews a host of individuals on the subject from various perspectives to include some from both sides. It records those conversations and let's then speak for themselves.
I don't hate someone for being Muslim, but the history of Islam being with Mohammed is pretty dark. I feel frustrated because I have the impression (rightly it wrongly, I didn't know) that there is a lop sided bias against Jews that glosses over that very dark and sordid history of Islam. It is heart rending, the abuses that Islam has motivated so many to perpetrate even against its own, especially women and girls. Peaceful Muslims exist, that's true, but the only way to do that is the focus on certain parts of the Korean to the exclusion of others. The doctrine of abrogation basically says that later teachings which are more harsh take precedence over earlier more peaceful ones.
I'm know that there are evil people who are Jewish who have done evil things. The original Khazerians, if my understanding is correct, were not actually Jews. They simply took on a Jewish identity out a wrong motivation.
I'm a work in progress on the subject. I'm not willing to make a big shift and paint all/most Jews in a negative light without a careful process.
Maybe looking at it as Islam vs Jews is the wrong persepective?
The DS running Isreal have perpetrated equal crimes against "their own".
From my point of view it is the "Jews" who are given much leeway, especially from the right and especially from Christians. I had given them too much leeway in the past and that is because it was "easy" to pick most anybody over the "big bad Islamic terrorists"
That Scoffield bible(a Zionist creation) did a wicked number on Christians....it helps to own the media distribution pathways.
In your process be sure to understand citizens and how they are manipulated by their respective leaders/gov
I have a long way to go most likely, but while I know that there are very corrupt Jews, I do look at it through the lens of the Scripture. I've never read the Scofield Bible; although, maybe, unbeknownst to me, it's influenced me indirectly. As a result of my own personal study of Scripture, I am very convinced that God is definitely not finished with the Jewish nation. We will see, for instance a fulfillment of Zech 12:10-13:1. Most Orthodox Jews know only small portions of the Talmud which spans many centuries of commentary and, as a result, contains many contradictions. Most Orthodox Jews tend to study narrow, select portions of it per their sectarian preferences. It saddens me to see them all seemingly grouped together as if they agree with everything in it as one. The corruption of some powerful individuals in the Orthodox community has, it seems, led to all Orthodox Jews being lumped together as if they agree with those individuals evil behavior including their victims. My own research has shown that there are a lot of advocacy groups within that community that are easy to find online.
As for government people, I believe you. It would be a worthy use of time to learn more about that as pertains to Israel. That said, I do believe that there must be those who seek positions in government who, like our own patriots, go in with a desire to do good and discover that they are up against a canal) deep state that is worse than most of us realize.
Do you have any suggestions of where I might start?
Im not proclaiming to be an expert in the region, however I am learning quite a bit so Im not going to be able to convince anyone of anything.
Before Oct 7 I was mainly neutral on Israel as a country THOUGH,, .I STILL always took their side when I heard about their Gaza skirmishes....after all we have been propagandized to death about the "filthy mooslims", so they are easy to see as the enemy.
After Oct 7 is when I started to really dig into what is going on there and from those findings I have changed my position. I have learned about the evil nature of those that created and run this "country" and the tricks that they have employed over time to divide people in their never ending conquest for dominion over the rest of the World.
I have no issue with Jews other than Jewish people who talk that chosen one crap or Jews that refuse to call out evil people just because they are supposedly Jewish......I have no problem with Muslims as a whole though I just dont have much in common with them in general so therefore very few have found their way into my circle over the years.
Also note that I dont question people about things like jobs, religion and such when meeting them, I prefer to hear what they have to say first before attaching a label so I could hang out with someone multiple times before even knowing about these affiliations if they dont bring it up first.
Not sure if I answered your question but these are my thoughts.
I am in that place of researching. The biggest issue is that I am limited on time. Over the last few decades, I have followed the persecuted Church closely, so I can speak to that. In that process, I have learned about the the Muslim religion. There is a book that I hope to read called Islam Uncensored which interviews a host of individuals on the subject from various perspectives to include some from both sides. It records those conversations and let's then speak for themselves. I don't hate someone for being Muslim, but the history of Islam being with Mohammed is pretty dark. I feel frustrated because I have the impression (rightly it wrongly, I didn't know) that there is a lop sided bias against Jews that glosses over that very dark and sordid history of Islam. It is heart rending, the abuses that Islam has motivated so many to perpetrate even against its own, especially women and girls. Peaceful Muslims exist, that's true, but the only way to do that is the focus on certain parts of the Korean to the exclusion of others. The doctrine of abrogation basically says that later teachings which are more harsh take precedence over earlier more peaceful ones. I'm know that there are evil people who are Jewish who have done evil things. The original Khazerians, if my understanding is correct, were not actually Jews. They simply took on a Jewish identity out a wrong motivation. I'm a work in progress on the subject. I'm not willing to make a big shift and paint all/most Jews in a negative light without a careful process.
Maybe looking at it as Islam vs Jews is the wrong persepective?
The DS running Isreal have perpetrated equal crimes against "their own".
From my point of view it is the "Jews" who are given much leeway, especially from the right and especially from Christians. I had given them too much leeway in the past and that is because it was "easy" to pick most anybody over the "big bad Islamic terrorists"
That Scoffield bible(a Zionist creation) did a wicked number on Christians....it helps to own the media distribution pathways.
In your process be sure to understand citizens and how they are manipulated by their respective leaders/gov
I have a long way to go most likely, but while I know that there are very corrupt Jews, I do look at it through the lens of the Scripture. I've never read the Scofield Bible; although, maybe, unbeknownst to me, it's influenced me indirectly. As a result of my own personal study of Scripture, I am very convinced that God is definitely not finished with the Jewish nation. We will see, for instance a fulfillment of Zech 12:10-13:1. Most Orthodox Jews know only small portions of the Talmud which spans many centuries of commentary and, as a result, contains many contradictions. Most Orthodox Jews tend to study narrow, select portions of it per their sectarian preferences. It saddens me to see them all seemingly grouped together as if they agree with everything in it as one. The corruption of some powerful individuals in the Orthodox community has, it seems, led to all Orthodox Jews being lumped together as if they agree with those individuals evil behavior including their victims. My own research has shown that there are a lot of advocacy groups within that community that are easy to find online. As for government people, I believe you. It would be a worthy use of time to learn more about that as pertains to Israel. That said, I do believe that there must be those who seek positions in government who, like our own patriots, go in with a desire to do good and discover that they are up against a canal) deep state that is worse than most of us realize. Do you have any suggestions of where I might start?
Here is a starter video in this thread that doesnt require much time investment
https://greatawakening.win/p/17s5WFD9gW/video-4-minutes-us-citizen-educa/c/