I haven't, I will have a look. I have only heard of the two people I mentioned due to chance, Jim came up in a YouTube comment and people were very divided about his 'message', so naturally I had to take a look at it. There sat a man spouting the exact thing I had been trying to spout for 15 years but was covering it in flowery language hoping to 'teach' it to someone. The idea that there was no one to teach, and nothing that needed to happen because it was complete/whole already triggered, and is still triggering, a very funny cycle as there is still a seeking energy here that appears to be trying to teach someone, despite a recognition that there is no individual here nor there to teach, and that it is not something that can be taught.

It appears as some residual process of the body. I would like to tell him personally, and probably will, that my experience of it, and the recognition that is here, is not like he is describing as a total cessation of the sense of self arising, and I suspect it is not like that for most people either. He had a long period of following a spiritual path, though he says it's just a story and that it has no value, he may be mistaken in some way. This brain, 'my' brain if you like is autistic, something which I only discovered after there was a recognition of 'this', an awakening, and thought there are times where there is only this, as I said, the sense of self does arise, though it is recognised as illusion. I suspect that what autism actually is as a 'condition' is this, a difference in functioning of the brain that gives rise to a stronger than normal sense of separation, and therefore a stronger sense of ego or self, and all of it's disfunction arises from that. A more intense seeking energy, if you like, that cripples the social function of the organism and in extreme cases is like a prison for the mind, without the ability to connect with others, communicate or perceive anything outside of itself. Yet it is the case that the 'recognition' as Jim calls it IS here, and has always been here.

I'm not sure whether Jim has it completely right, basically, and perhaps he is just simplifying it to the most confronting, brutal point possible. If it is that radical, brutal and simple, all of this attempt to do anything about 'this' at all is completely pointless, hopeless even. It really flies in the face of basically every other 'path', at least until one supposedly reaches 'higher' levels. Of course, there is no path nor levels nor nothing to attain by someone, yet perhaps that is 'useful' for some? The vast majority of 'teachers' give a path or method by which an individual gradual can cultivate and soften the boundaries of the illusion of separation. I suppose it is not so strange that there are 'teachers' who appear to prescribe philosophies aimed at cultivating compassion and easing suffering. But it is sort of bullshit, though, right? Because ultimately there is nothing at all to find or attain. It's just this, already, and always was, and the more you try to gain it the further you are from the point. So I really like that about this 'message', its like Zen without all the sitting around meditating, it's the 'real' Zen if you like.

Perhaps the other reason that this isn't a 'stable' thing for me is that the 'awakening', at least here, wasn't the result of having read any spiritual bullshit or seeking any sort of 'enlightenment'. It did involve a monumental dose of mushrooms, however, without having any understanding about what they would do.

You see but with it, came the realisation that 'this' is what it had been all along, and the previous experience WAS it, as well, and that it was perfectly ordinary, not special, available to everyone at any time. If only I had the right words, I could trigger it, I thought. So it really resonates when they talk of there being no path, no teaching, no concept etc. because none of that was a thing here, previously to the 'awakening'.

I suspect this radical message of non-dualism is more useful to those that are 'ready' to hear it, or at least when thinking of it within the traditional paradigm of how it's always been 'taught' or transmitted.

There is of course no one who can ever really accept it, yet a recognition can occur and there appears to be some resonance with the message within individuals even if they reject it.