I have tried, in many ways, foolishly, to try to 'communicate' something, for which I've lacked the words. It doesn't really matter, because there is nothing really to communicate, and yet a seeking energy seeks answers, and it has been very frustrating over many years, being unable to provide these 'answers'. It's been a trip, man. Truly wild stuff
There is nothing to provide, of course. Only this :)
I have recently become aware, apparently, of at least 2 gentlemen that appear to go around and talk about 'this'. I didn't appear to have been aware of them or their particular 'message' before, though it is the same message I have been trying to communicate but lacked the framework to do so.
Tony Parsons and Jim Newman. There are probably many others, but this is the most radical form of the message that I have heard so far.
This message isn't for anybody at all, and for no particular purpose. Nobody can accept this message, and that is perfectly fine.
But where there is a seeking energy that is ready to see, perhaps this message can help the illusion to 'fall away' It has certainly appeared to help me recently, but not really of course :)
Now I'll speak a little more colloquially, because there is a seeking energy here, I am under no illusion of that ahahaha! I'm writing this because there appears to be a belief that by sharing it, something might happen. It's ally very whacky and wonderful, terrifying even.
I am not quite sure how to present this information but I suggest you just watch some of their content, with an open mind and heart, if there is a seeking energy that is ready for liberation. There could appear a recognition, miraculously, for no reason at all. Doesn't really matter of course, it's still just 'this', appearing as rejection of the message, wanting it to be more, etc etc and so on :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oWe0Nm1thk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILEUYVsiqyghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILEUYVsiqyg
This is directly Q related, or course, if there is a recognition of 'this' appearing as Q It's all pointing at the same truth.
So that's it, then! Feel free to ask questions below, I will humbly try to respond as best I can, I feel that I am somewhat able. What 'gurus' or spiritual teachings don't talk about is the utterly overwhelming sense of disorientation as the sense of individuality dissolves. It is not necessarily 'fun' or 'blissful', though it can appear as that. At it appears that way in my story, 'this' is not at all what you thought it would be, it feels as there you are walking a tightrope over an infinite void, only for the tightrope to disappear, but then also, perhaps, so too the individual. This recognition appears to come and go, at times, it has not appeared 'stable' or permanent to me, perhaps it appears differently to others, I can't say, HAHA! It is perfectly fine of course, it's still just this appearing to come and go, that is how it always seems to appears when the illusion of individuality arises.
There is no intention to argue or debate. I understand there will be rejection, frustration, anger etc. This message isn't for 'you' anyway :) This is for those that appear to be ready for there to ben an end of seeking.
For the sake of conversation and considering this environment, I am more than happy to call 'this' 'God'. It's just a name after all, a rose by any other etc.
Nice! Have you heard John Wheeler or Charlie Hayes?
I haven't, I will have a look. I have only heard of the two people I mentioned due to chance, Jim came up in a YouTube comment and people were very divided about his 'message', so naturally I had to take a look at it. There sat a man spouting the exact thing I had been trying to spout for 15 years but was covering it in flowery language hoping to 'teach' it to someone. The idea that there was no one to teach, and nothing that needed to happen because it was complete/whole already triggered, and is still triggering, a very funny cycle as there is still a seeking energy here that appears to be trying to teach someone, despite a recognition that there is no individual here nor there to teach, and that it is not something that can be taught.
It appears as some residual process of the body. I would like to tell him personally, and probably will, that my experience of it, and the recognition that is here, is not like he is describing as a total cessation of the sense of self arising, and I suspect it is not like that for most people either. He had a long period of following a spiritual path, though he says it's just a story and that it has no value, he may be mistaken in some way. This brain, 'my' brain if you like is autistic, something which I only discovered after there was a recognition of 'this', an awakening, and thought there are times where there is only this, as I said, the sense of self does arise, though it is recognised as illusion. I suspect that what autism actually is as a 'condition' is this, a difference in functioning of the brain that gives rise to a stronger than normal sense of separation, and therefore a stronger sense of ego or self, and all of it's disfunction arises from that. A more intense seeking energy, if you like, that cripples the social function of the organism and in extreme cases is like a prison for the mind, without the ability to connect with others, communicate or perceive anything outside of itself. Yet it is the case that the 'recognition' as Jim calls it IS here, and has always been here.
I'm not sure whether Jim has it completely right, basically, and perhaps he is just simplifying it to the most confronting, brutal point possible. If it is that radical, brutal and simple, all of this attempt to do anything about 'this' at all is completely pointless, hopeless even. It really flies in the face of basically every other 'path', at least until one supposedly reaches 'higher' levels. Of course, there is no path nor levels nor nothing to attain by someone, yet perhaps that is 'useful' for some? The vast majority of 'teachers' give a path or method by which an individual gradual can cultivate and soften the boundaries of the illusion of separation. I suppose it is not so strange that there are 'teachers' who appear to prescribe philosophies aimed at cultivating compassion and easing suffering. But it is sort of bullshit, though, right? Because ultimately there is nothing at all to find or attain. It's just this, already, and always was, and the more you try to gain it the further you are from the point. So I really like that about this 'message', its like Zen without all the sitting around meditating, it's the 'real' Zen if you like.
Perhaps the other reason that this isn't a 'stable' thing for me is that the 'awakening', at least here, wasn't the result of having read any spiritual bullshit or seeking any sort of 'enlightenment'. It did involve a monumental dose of mushrooms, however, without having any understanding about what they would do.
You see but with it, came the realisation that 'this' is what it had been all along, and the previous experience WAS it, as well, and that it was perfectly ordinary, not special, available to everyone at any time. If only I had the right words, I could trigger it, I thought. So it really resonates when they talk of there being no path, no teaching, no concept etc. because none of that was a thing here, previously to the 'awakening'.
I suspect this radical message of non-dualism is more useful to those that are 'ready' to hear it, or at least when thinking of it within the traditional paradigm of how it's always been 'taught' or transmitted.
There is of course no one who can ever really accept it, yet a recognition can occur and there appears to be some resonance with the message within individuals even if they reject it.
Very recognizable. I always return to this, it is fascinating. Also no matter what we do, there is always "I" right at the center living it. That's the simplicity pointed to. There is also Eric Putkonen on youtube, his My Spiritual Awakening Story is something you should watch. I haven't looked at Jim Newman yet but I will.