I often don't know where to go after becoming frustrated. I often end up here writing about whatever strange ideas and subjects that come upon me and ive always felt welcomed here. Even if I was wrong about something the criticism never seem to come from a place of malevolence.
I accept that at any given time that I know about 0.001% of all truth in this world and the rest seems ... daunting to say the least. (Obviously the actual % is unquantifiably small)
Atheists, im learning, tell others that our collective morality is illogical and our moral lawgiver is science fiction and then they scorn us when we interrupt their goat fucking debauchery.
These are hard lessons to learn.
The spiritual world I'm discovering is constant and requires constant care, like a garden. I'm learning about binding and loosening spirits and I find these things fascinating bc the only place I practice it. Is in my closet. Funny right? No....it's not taking an act which is Holy before God and inverting & perverting it to make you feel ashamed of it is sinful. I bring all my problems to the Lord, and you should too.
The perverts invert. That's why it's inverted "to come out of the closet" in almost every spiritual sense. We are shunned for being in it in the first place. They pervert everything at every moment. Job is not a man of God, a job is labor slavery, wage slavery & usury. Jesus isnt the king of kings. There are no kings. You were a king but now you're working. Invert and pervert.
I was molested as a child and that type of trauma will twist your natural proclivities. Add decades of digital porn and you get something else entirely. So where does that leave me on the sexual spectrum? Idk
I don't care any more. No sex. No porn. No cumming. Work out. Diet. Pray. Read the Bible. Seek. That seems more prudent than self loathing and self pity. It seems better than shame. Are you gonna say you're automatically better than me bc you were never molested? That's the every day shame of the victims of molestation face and every time ppl find that out about us they seem to treat us differently. So we hide further inside the shame. It comforts you like an old friend, like a demon that knows you so well and has been following your family around for generations..... and then you watch your enemies post memes about how their best friend is their demon. It would break my heart if wasn't covered in so much prideful filth.
Here's the point Christendom
The opposite of shame is glory. He took the shame upon himself and clothed us in righteousness.
You are better. Your natural disgust to perversion is a deep and necessary form of spirtual combat. Your straight sexual proclivities matter and the more narrow and straight your ways are the more I respect you and so does everyone around you. But you gotta not be afraid of the homoerotic bc theyre gonna heap it on you. They're degenerates and godly men need to call it out. I recognize that it's a spirtual war, virtual in ways and an information war in others but primarily its spiritual
When I listened to a restored and saved former sorcerer they describe how hexes and curses work. How we are bound to and kept in check by spirits. How if we are in a "state of grace" they will leave you alone, but if it's an especially powerful spell the demon lies in wait until you fall from it before it binds to you.
Now I'm no catholic but that came as some deeply profound information about the conduct of spiritual warfare. Combine that with 50 hours of lectures from Derek Prince and you might become spiritually untouchable. It is knowledge that i accept comes from a unconventional sources. I have yet to investigate this idea and if you have some information to share on that subject, I'm deeply interested but I digress.
When I view these atheist accounts it always didn't sit right with me. They were always so dark, so twisted, so satanic. I didn't understand why.
Until I insulted them.
Salvation is open to all. I wrote. The truth cannot be hidden There is no ancient secret mystery to salvation. A secret truth is in fact a lie.
The smarter the Satanist the more disgust they have for the rabble and the more likely they are to elicit excessive pride and at great heights will even manifest hubris.
The insults began.
They would send a meme with words inside of a pentagram and call it truth and I would invert the picture put an old testament law from leviticus about not tolerating sorcery and send it right back. Ofc I wouldn't do it in English not for these Satanists - Hebrew. Next Isiah 53 in Hebrew with no English translation on a picture of Jesus. They did not like that at all. I struck a nerve that much I knew. Then I started to dig into why.
'Your God is a logical absurdity" one of them declared. "God Rot" A brutal and vile profile confronts me. "You liked it didn't you?!" He asks alluding to my molestations. His breath smells like cock n cum from across the internet.
Some trauma never leaves your mind. Taste smell ..... ugh shivers But then, there, in midst of the pain. Glorious....sweet precious glory
Your
I looked again.
Your God
I smiled.
Hes not saying that his God is a logical fallacy. He's saying that my God is a logical fallacy which means....
Which means He's not an atheist at all. He's a liar.
There are 6 things the Lord hates 7 which are detestable A proud look A lying tongue Hands that shed innocent blood A heart that creates wicked plans Feet that run swiftly to evil A false witness who breathes out lies One who spreads discord amoung his brother's.
Lying is twice and spreading discord with your mouth is once ..... I'd say be mindful of your tongue if 3 of 7 things the Lord hates happens to exit your mouth with words.
Lying is a big deal. Just how big of a deal?
What's the liar lying about? And why is he going to great lengths to lie about it? It wasn't adding up. I started calling them fake atheists. I decided i would test their resolve. Certainly a true atheist would have no problem condemning all the logically absurd religions equally.
Call a Hindu a cow worshipper. No problem. Call a Muslim a pedo worshipper. They jump on in. Crap on Jesus. They'd follow your account. But then it stopped. I made one more inquiry into them and the abuse rained down from a half dozen accounts. Yet with my simple test there were no takers. "Maybe it's just this lot". I thought.
I'm a stubborn asshole too, if some one said 'do this or you lose the argument" .... I'd say "fuck you ... I'm not a monkey". So I went elsewhere and sure enough no problem. They completed the task. True atheists.
Yet now after 3 days arguing with these same accounts they refuse to act sacrilegiously towards the Talmud in any capacity.
Checkmate.
Now I know. I know what you're gonna say. But listen to some history first as I've come to understand it.
My family name comes from Scotland so I have a natural interest in all things Scottish. And I enjoy learning that the throne in 1320 was able to be traced back to King David. The Scots themselves through literacy of the Bible and their culture and had enormous impacts throughout the world and the same could be said about the filthy Irish but certainly to a lesser end. Ha ha
The Phoenicians, the Scythians and the Parthians were 3 kingdoms that were created after the fall of the northern kingdom of Israel and coincidentally 3 wise men visited bethlehem.
It is said the daughters of Zedekiah, the last king of Judah, sailed with the Phoenicians and landed in Scotland n Ireland respectively with the representative daughters of Manassas and Ephraim and the throne of the tribes of Israel with them.
Ephraim was blessed by Joseph and the Scots possess a intellectual lineage and history that we shouldn’t forget or glaze over. Their success matched with the blessing of Ephraim seems like palpable and related history. The flag of the confederate army in the US Civil War is a Scottish St Andrew's cross with Presbyterian blue. Ephraim apparently prospered even if they didn't know that they were Ephraim.
Why does any of this matter?
Because anyone that is apart of or claims association with any of the northern tribes of ancient Israel by default can't be anti Semitic. If you are from a tribe of Israel then you're from noahs son Shem or the Shemitic ppl or anti shemetic ppl.
The moment I make this statement. They respond with you're anti Jewish! Not anti Semitic but anti Jewish, immediately playing word games with my words. They seem to enjoy the casting of spells with the words we spell.
More on that later.
My curoisity turned to rage then insult and in my humble opinion i absolutely obliterated the demon inside this profile.
I'm paraphrasing
When the Assyrians conquered the northern tribes they were welcomed as liberators and they celebrated openly their emancipation from Judah.
Now fuck off back to Levi and tell him Ephraim has returned.
Followed by - Elijah himself begs at the throne of God for your tribes repentance.
And for a bunch of so called atheists they became unhinged. But they did not deny my right in claiming to be Ephraim until they thought about it some more.
It is written to study to show yourself approved
Calling Jesus old testament titles has some seriously profound power. That was one tactic i employed and i naively did not recognize the profundity of my actions. So much so that upon calling Jesus The High Priest they were quick to point out that there is only one Abrahamic order.
Jesus is from Judah. He cannot be High Priest bc only Levities can be High Priest. If Jesus is not High Priest than he rightly cannot be the Messiah either.
Except.
The LXX
In Genesis 11 in almost every Bible it lists the ages of Shems sons. If you do a side by side comparison of the scriptures to the greek Septugient LXX you will see a vast discrepancy in the dates.
35 vs 135 30 vs 130 34 vs 134
Why? How did the Jewish translators fuck up these dates, these numbers, so poorly so profoundly?
It's like arguing with a Greek about whether baptism in Greek means a sprinkle or submersion. These seem like small things but have huge consequences if you are not prepared for them.
Enter Melkziadek
Melkziadek is visited by Abraham after battle and Abraham breaks bread and drinks wine before tithing 10% of the spoils of war to him. Breaking bread drinking wine - like a supper.
Is Melkziadek of the same order as Abraham or is Melkziadek of a different order but still unto the same God?
Simple useless question. Who cares? Wrong. Pay close attention now.
What if Melkziadek was Shem though (noahs son)? Then both Melkziadek and Abraham are of the same priestly order which turns into there being one and only one Abrahamic order. The levitical order. And again only levities can be High Priest. So Jesus again cannot be the Messiah bc he is not from Levi.
Games ......
This is alluded to by my opponent. But i have the Greek septugient in my back pocket. Not the authority of the church nor the saints, nor the early fathers or even the KJV.
Just my savior.......
Shem is Melkziadek. There's only one Abrahamic order that's the counter he claims.
Hubris ...... at last ......
The septugient proves that Shem is long dead by almost 700 years by the time Melkziadek and Abraham are around. Shem cannot be Melkziadek.
Victory ...... it was only a small sideways smile and with a heavy tear and only for a instance but victory ..... Glory Sweet precious glory hallelujah
"I'm a Jewish atheist and you are a low IQ gentile dipshit " he writes
I breathed heavy. I went to the store and bought my child some candy and as I walked..... a thought
I couldn't wait to return .... now I don't know if this is true or not but I said it .....
The northern tribes were emancipated from the jews of then which resemble the jews of now.
I hope my insult hits you to the core of your faux secret, pseudo wise, degenerate inducing facsimile of truth.
Boom bang bomb - account suspended - game over. I look at the screens shots of the trail of insults.... you smell like Hindu cum i wrote ..... ah the trolling memories ..... except wait a minute.
The main guy im arguing with no joke names himself Moloch. Like the child sacrificing demon god moloch.
But wait and this is what i don't know and perhaps it's nothing but why did he change his name, he actively changed his screen name from Moloch to Molech.
But why? The plot thickens ......
His greatest manifestation was "your entire miserable lives revolves around us. AmYisraelchai MF This is what never again means now"!
What a silly lying goose.
He's clearly in denial
TL/DR
How I got suspended from Twitter Lessons in defeating Satanists
Anon, i believe you were engaging with atheists in the wrong way.
While not every atheist requires this (eg: atheists who are live-and-let-live, atheists who keep their beliefs private), there are some outspoken and combative atheists who I've engaged and defeated them completely and identified the patterns they use (they never go outside of them). It's very simple.
First: you need to understand that atheism has zero (0) arguments that haven't been defeated resoundingly already. Their best argument, "the problem of evil", stems from ignorance and unwillingness to learn the scripture they're arguing against (plus when they use "God", that means the whole scripture can now be used against their reasoning, and it's a matter of you of simply having a well-versed biblical faith).
Secondly: every whine = ignore. every complaint = mostly ignore. Every assertion = ask them to provide evidence for their claim. A lot of combative atheist try to control the argument, and you don't let them do this by quickly and immediately pointing out their fallacies and red herrings (otherwise you're going to be dragging yourself through their mud - don't go there. know your line and don't cross it). Additionally, with combative ones, to save time never let a question you ask go unanswered. Ignore everything they reply with (which will likely be more questions or more assertions) and just say "since you're not interested in answering questions, but more interested in talking at people there's no point continuing"
Thirdly: i can see by your unstructured and rambling post that your throwing out a lot of loose ends that can let people jump on to attack you. It's stupid. You need to keep your words tight, and provide no loose end you can't cover, and they will try latch on to that, but there will be no gaps for them to get in.
I fought successfully and victoriously in the 2005-2015 new-atheism battles. I will admit i was a bit rambling in 2005, with the sword (the word of God) cutting both me and them. But by 2010 i was cutting them more than me. by 2015 it was only them getting cut. It was a 10 year battle that massively leaped me to levels of faith i had never known to exist before. And where i stand now i can say there are still yet higher levels to attain and especially: unless you're looking to grow your faith and live as Christ asked, engaging with atheists that way is likely to end up doing more damage than good.
This may be the best piece of advice I have ever recieved. Let me digest this further and get back.to you.
I'll give you another basic example:
For instance, during a conversation a combative atheist may boldly assert "there is no God".
If you were already in the argument and that was aimed at you, or if you are someone looking to jump in, you can reply "do you have any evidence for your claim?"
Things could go many different ways after this.. they could respond... "do YOU have any evidence for YOUR claim?"
to which if you just jumped in you can say "i wasn't making any claims, but asking for you to provide evidence for this".
If you were in it already, you'll have to analyze what was said by both parties before continuing, but a possible avenue is "The Holy Bible is considered testimonial evidence, and people have tested and testified of its validity in every generation including ours. If you are excluding testimonial evidence which is part of the body of evidence available to humankind, that's nothing more than moving the goalposts on what defines evidence at best, or at worse appealing to ignorance and dismissing billions of people, or generalizing them to be worthless without any shred of evidence to support that."
They could also respond "I don't need to prove my claim" - to which you can say, 'those making the claim have the burden, for example i have a bucket, saying 'there is no water in this bucket - how would i prove it to you? simply by showing you there is no water in the bucket'. This puts them in a tough position because in order to prove their claim of "there is no God" they would need to be able to prove that they can be everywhere in all of creation and beyond at every moment (something they can't do).
these are just a simple examples. But i will tell you i have seen this, and you need to be aware of it:
Combative atheist sets up fallacy... people engage with the fallacy.. the atheist then controls the argument and piles more fallacies on (bad path).
Combative atheist sets up fallacy.. you point out the fallacy and rebut it soundly. They don't like it, so bring out a fallacy to prop up their failed fallacy. You rebut that second fallacy. They bring out a Nth fallacy to prop up their failed fallacy that failed to prop up their previous fallacy.. continue to rebut the fallacy. I stopped after 3, saying something like "Fallacy 3, you're out!" and moved on, much to their displeasure, but i gave them kind words to learn the scriptures better so they can learn not to require the crutch of fallacies. This requires you to know, and be able to identify fallacies (it's not easy).. it's kind of like regex.. sometimes you have to look it up.
tl;dr: Stay logical, stay truthful, stay reasonable, stay rational, don't get emotional, stay within WWJD (imagine him dealing with the pharisees and sadusees, or the money exchangers, but also imagine how he was when peter cut off a soldier's ear, or helping the poor - bold as a lion, gentle as a dove)
I'll start with the one underlying insult you seemed to land.
3 - i can see by your unstructured and rambling post that your throwing out a lot of loose ends that can let people jump on to attack you. It's stupid. You need to keep your words tight, and provide no loose end you can't cover, and they will try latch on to that, but there will be no gaps for them to get in.
When debating 100% concise coherent arguments. I agree
But I'm arguing from the flesh not the from mind. Yes ofc the spirit. I've written for many years and the rambling, although it appears unstructured, is designed to disarm ppl. I'm not arguing a point of reason I'm asking why they have a heart of stone and why they don't have a heart of flesh. The argument that brilliant autists such as yourself bring is clear and unequivocal logic and its the reason you decimate. But I'm drawn to go after the person behind the argument. The heart of stone. This was my aim - and in hindsight a foolish one.
I brought a true atheist into the fight and I'm certain he was beside himself at the vitriol displayed by them. Maybe not, probably not. Logically improbable. But I can hope
I have come to realize that we do not all possess the same spiritual gifts and what i think i may be called to do is not necessarily what I'm called to do. I dipped my toe in the puddle and was dragged into deep waters. That's the lesson of my rambling incoherence.
I really just think I'm called to be at peace. I think it's your fight. Autists against retardation. I feel like more of a Chaplin in this fight, looking to pray over the good warriors of Jesus and offer my help to his enemies after great Christian knights have vanquished their incoherence.
Go to war Sir Fatality loosen your tongue and straighten the path of the wicked. Decimate his enemies with truth. Raise high the standard of the true cross so you might be easily seen from the heavens.
May his face turn to you and may his spirit be poured out and into your life. May your house be a refuge of strength and peace. May the faith found in your closet renew your spirit today and forever.
Let the Glory of God be upon him like a garment for he is a mighty and righteous Warrior of Jesus Christ.
Amen
i no longer bother getting in atheist debates/arguments unless required. I'm interested in a new argument, but everything else has been done and bored me to death.