I just came of the phone conversing with a beautiful man and a good friend. He is a staunch Christian, I am not. Yet, we find common ground. You wish to know where?

Thumb your bible to 1 John: 4:12 No man saw ever God; if we love together, God dwelleth in us, and the charity of him is perfect in us.

As always: correctness with yourself and others.

Stubborn? illogical? Look in the mirror, frens.

1. The OP meme has been debunked since ... eh ... where was it:.... Ah, yes .. Dover Schoolboard. And in this case, the shoe was on the other foot. A schoolboard trying to push their views which violate Amendment 1, just as much a schoolboard would push the new age LBTQ+-religious-shit.

BTW: you do know what the Q stands for? Queerulant. :-)

2. You seem to forget, there are quite a number of atheist on this board, and ... I dare say, if it wasn't for them .... you would not be here. Or do you think the autists on /pol are all .... thumpers like you?

3. When it comes to making a logical and correct representation of the argument on both sides, you failed. And many Christians fail in that regard, not to mention, many atheists as well. I do not mind, because I comprehend why. Illusions are strong. And it is easier to accept a simple narrative that fits a need, than wrap the head around a complex topic, and to experience your own spirituality, or rather: the divine in you.

Religions are simply that: a system of control where you learn the spiritual experience of people from a long gone age, from a place you would not even want to live in, let alone be found dead in.

Come to think of it: there is a certain commonality between it all. ....Why would that be?

At any rate: enjoy the circle jerk: atheists are illogical.