I have been watching John Clayton's series from start to finish and it is incredible the amount of scientific evidence he realizes and shares which points to God. He was a former atheist who taught himself about God and I thought it might be able to help one person find God who has questions. The website is filled with free information ready at the click of a button or I believe they will mail it out to you as well. God bless you all.
Here are John Clayton's 31st and 32nd lessons: https://vimeo.com/57929617 - Why I Left Atheism (Part 1) https://vimeo.com/57929618 - Why I Left Atheism (Part 2)
Here's John Clayton's website: https://www.doesgodexist.org/
Video Catalog: https://www.doesgodexist.org/Catalog/Catalog-DGE_DVDs.html
Circle of the Earth? That's pretty vague. Suspended on nothing...very vague also and could mean a lot of things. Taken the way you think it means, it is contradicted: “The pillars of the earth are the Lord's, and on them He has set the world” (1 Samuel 2:8, ESV)
Wouldn't say what to your face? I didn't say exactly what you said I did. I said it's retarded to try to prove god with science. I think even religious people should be able to see that is true and many of them do. It's not scientifically knowable since it is not in the realm of evidence. In science evidence is all you have.
Job 26:7
1 Samuel is Hannah's prayer. Read before for context, she is talking about positions of power and authority not the literal world having pillars in space upon which it is set.
Modern "science" which says to get the vaccine will tell you God is a lie. True science which aims to study investigate prove and not deny itself and stay true to its laws will show there is undeniable proof of intelligent design.
God put the stars in the sky as a night light for man. Come on now.
??? "He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing."
How does that relate to reality? Stretcheth out the north over the empty place? I doubt when they said "earth" they were talking about the whole (spherical) planet. Probably earth as in 'ground' or 'land.' Either way it is inscrutable.
I don't think we are talking about the same thing when we say the word science. I am talking about the scientific method and that is it. There is no "prove" in the scientific method. It is always possible to understand something better. The scientific method has nothing to do with god, pro or con.
Regardless if "prove" is a step science does prove. That's the entire purpose of scientific laws, to state a fact which cannot be circumvented thereby proving XYZ.
There is nothing that says that scientific laws are inviolable. A phenomenon might seem to be explained but along comes a better explanation.