I think we had a recent wave of undesirables be persuaded to leave their country and join the invasion. It was a total open border. And while I agree in principle, I myself have been in situations where I've had to take desperate measures when it comes to taking care of the family. Although illegal I don't necessarily find crossing a border immoral. But i guess rules are rules.
I've been disabled since I was 38. I had 2 children to care for at that age. So, in desperation to take care of my children, should I have been able to go shoplifting or robbing a bank to accomplish that? I have a funny feeling I'd be sitting in prison for breaking the law, starving children or not. So NO, breaking the law to care for your family doesn't cut it for me. Breaking the law is breaking the law. I have yet to see an American citizen get a judicial pass due to hardship after breaking the law. Why are we supposed to give one to people who somehow managed to traverse great distances to get here illegally?
I'm not talking about shoplifting or robbing banks. More like not having a piece of paper to wash dishes, roofing or cut lawns. Can't fault a person for working. Some people are very legalistic, some are practical.
The response you gave that I replied to did not say anything about working a job. You discussed desperate to care for family and you see border crossing as moral issue not criminal. Merely the act of crossing the border illegally is a criminal act. So gotta say, I'm not really sure what point you are trying to make here. I was discussing the criminal act of crossing the border.
Comparing actions taken to care for your family I compared committing a crime to care for them. Americans LIVE under bridges and starve when life is desperate. Should they commit a crime based on DESPERATION they would STILL face legal consequences. Illegals committing the crime of border crossing out of DESPERATION does NOT negate the criminality of their actions any more than DESPERATION excuses criminal behavior for Americans.
I operate my life from a moral framework, not necessarily legal. Sometimes government says you have to pay certain taxes, or can't own certain guns or have to drive at certain speeds but you use your own moral compass to figure out what's right. If you want to work and no one is giving you papers I don't consider it a major sin to go for it.
I think we had a recent wave of undesirables be persuaded to leave their country and join the invasion. It was a total open border. And while I agree in principle, I myself have been in situations where I've had to take desperate measures when it comes to taking care of the family. Although illegal I don't necessarily find crossing a border immoral. But i guess rules are rules.
I've been disabled since I was 38. I had 2 children to care for at that age. So, in desperation to take care of my children, should I have been able to go shoplifting or robbing a bank to accomplish that? I have a funny feeling I'd be sitting in prison for breaking the law, starving children or not. So NO, breaking the law to care for your family doesn't cut it for me. Breaking the law is breaking the law. I have yet to see an American citizen get a judicial pass due to hardship after breaking the law. Why are we supposed to give one to people who somehow managed to traverse great distances to get here illegally?
I'm not talking about shoplifting or robbing banks. More like not having a piece of paper to wash dishes, roofing or cut lawns. Can't fault a person for working. Some people are very legalistic, some are practical.
The response you gave that I replied to did not say anything about working a job. You discussed desperate to care for family and you see border crossing as moral issue not criminal. Merely the act of crossing the border illegally is a criminal act. So gotta say, I'm not really sure what point you are trying to make here. I was discussing the criminal act of crossing the border.
Comparing actions taken to care for your family I compared committing a crime to care for them. Americans LIVE under bridges and starve when life is desperate. Should they commit a crime based on DESPERATION they would STILL face legal consequences. Illegals committing the crime of border crossing out of DESPERATION does NOT negate the criminality of their actions any more than DESPERATION excuses criminal behavior for Americans.
I operate my life from a moral framework, not necessarily legal. Sometimes government says you have to pay certain taxes, or can't own certain guns or have to drive at certain speeds but you use your own moral compass to figure out what's right. If you want to work and no one is giving you papers I don't consider it a major sin to go for it.