There is no such thing as your share, or their share. That is just brainwashed talk. The fact is that none of us should be paying tax. Tariffs were the way our founders went, not direct taxation on the people. Only those working for the federal government had a tax liability.
Since strongarming taxes upon us, government has raised taxes to find ways to use it, not to meet increased costs. They have created unconstitutional departments, programs, and causes to spend money on, and then want more like the greedy bastards they are.
“The government taxes you when you bring home a paycheck. It taxes you when you make a phone call. It taxes you when you turn on a light. It taxes you when you sell a stock. It taxes you when you fill your car with gas. It taxes you when you ride a plane. It taxes you when you get married. Then it taxes you when you die. This is taxual insanity and it must end.” ~ J. C. Watts, Jr. (1957- ) US Congressman from Oklahoma (R), former quarterback in the Canadian Football League
“To lay taxes to provide for the general welfare of the United States, that is to say, 'to lay taxes for the purpose of providing for the general welfare.' For the laying of taxes is the power, and the general welfare the purpose for which the power is to be exercised. They are not to lay taxes ad libitum for any purpose they please; but only to pay the debts or provide for the welfare of the Union.” ~ Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826), US Founding Father, drafted the Declaration of Independence, 3rd US President
“But how is this legal plunder to be identified? Quite simply. See if the law takes from some persons what belongs to them, and gives it to other persons to whom it does not belong. See if the law benefits one citizen at the expense of another by doing what the citizen himself cannot do without committing a crime.” ~ Frederic Bastiat (1801-1850) [Claude Frederic Bastiat] French economist, statesman, and author. He did most of his writing during the years just before -- and immediately following -- the French Revolution of February 1848
"The Law" by Frederic Bastiat (1848)
“The collection of taxes which are not absolutely required, which do not beyond reasonable doubt contribute to the public welfare, is only a species of legalized larceny. The wise and correct course to follow in taxation is not to destroy those who have already secured success, but to create conditions under which everyone will have a better chance to be successful.” ~ Calvin Coolidge (1872-1933) 30th US President
“It would be thought a hard government that should tax its people one tenth part.” ~ Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790) US Founding Father
“To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical.” ~ Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826), US Founding Father, drafted the Declaration of Independence, 3rd US President
Virginia Statutes of Religious Freedom, 1779.
“I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on the objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents.” ~ James Madison (1751-1836), Father of the Constitution for the USA, 4th US President
1792, in disapproval of Congress appropriating $15,000 to assist some French refugees
“Beware the greedy hand of government, thrusting itself into every corner and crevice of industry.” ~ Thomas Paine (1737-1809) US Founding father, pamphleteer, author
“The theory of the IRS is rather repugnant to me because the assumption is made that I, the government, owns 100% of your income and I permit you to keep 5%, 10% or 20%. You're vulnerable, you've sold out. The government can take 80% if they want, which they did at one time.” ~ Dr. Ron Paul (1935-) American physician, US Congressman (R-TX), US Presidential candidate
Candidates@Google interview, July 13, 2007
I agree. Not brainwashed but I understand you saying such. DC needs to decrease by 90%, my random figure, since it’s impossible to tell at this time the exact degree of waste. I’m hopeful DOGE exposes and determines this degree and that Trump and team immediately begin closing / defunding government to the same degree. Simply assuming it takes 1-2 years to accomplish this and have tariffs in place to subsidize the newly decreased government is where I would understand a flat tax on the wealthy. No others. Scrapping the current tax code is a massive step in the direction we both agree on. No income tax (0). I voted for H. Ross Perot because he understood and tried to expose NAFTA and its certain outcome. I believe he would have exposed the income tax scam as well, or I would have hoped. Regarding the elimination of income tax, which is repugnant to the constitution, the time is now or possibly never. I say it is at least soon.
I apologize, I didn't mean you were brainwashed. That is what government wants everyone to believe so people get mad at each other for not paying "fair shares", rather than asking why government needs so much of our money.
No worries.. You made a valid point which I failed to address in my initial comment; that income tax is unconstitutional. We both know we’re on the same team.
There is no such thing as your share, or their share. That is just brainwashed talk. The fact is that none of us should be paying tax. Tariffs were the way our founders went, not direct taxation on the people. Only those working for the federal government had a tax liability.
Since strongarming taxes upon us, government has raised taxes to find ways to use it, not to meet increased costs. They have created unconstitutional departments, programs, and causes to spend money on, and then want more like the greedy bastards they are.
“The government taxes you when you bring home a paycheck. It taxes you when you make a phone call. It taxes you when you turn on a light. It taxes you when you sell a stock. It taxes you when you fill your car with gas. It taxes you when you ride a plane. It taxes you when you get married. Then it taxes you when you die. This is taxual insanity and it must end.” ~ J. C. Watts, Jr. (1957- ) US Congressman from Oklahoma (R), former quarterback in the Canadian Football League
“To lay taxes to provide for the general welfare of the United States, that is to say, 'to lay taxes for the purpose of providing for the general welfare.' For the laying of taxes is the power, and the general welfare the purpose for which the power is to be exercised. They are not to lay taxes ad libitum for any purpose they please; but only to pay the debts or provide for the welfare of the Union.” ~ Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826), US Founding Father, drafted the Declaration of Independence, 3rd US President
“But how is this legal plunder to be identified? Quite simply. See if the law takes from some persons what belongs to them, and gives it to other persons to whom it does not belong. See if the law benefits one citizen at the expense of another by doing what the citizen himself cannot do without committing a crime.” ~ Frederic Bastiat (1801-1850) [Claude Frederic Bastiat] French economist, statesman, and author. He did most of his writing during the years just before -- and immediately following -- the French Revolution of February 1848 "The Law" by Frederic Bastiat (1848)
“The collection of taxes which are not absolutely required, which do not beyond reasonable doubt contribute to the public welfare, is only a species of legalized larceny. The wise and correct course to follow in taxation is not to destroy those who have already secured success, but to create conditions under which everyone will have a better chance to be successful.” ~ Calvin Coolidge (1872-1933) 30th US President
“It would be thought a hard government that should tax its people one tenth part.” ~ Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790) US Founding Father
“To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical.” ~ Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826), US Founding Father, drafted the Declaration of Independence, 3rd US President Virginia Statutes of Religious Freedom, 1779.
“I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on the objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents.” ~ James Madison (1751-1836), Father of the Constitution for the USA, 4th US President 1792, in disapproval of Congress appropriating $15,000 to assist some French refugees
“Beware the greedy hand of government, thrusting itself into every corner and crevice of industry.” ~ Thomas Paine (1737-1809) US Founding father, pamphleteer, author
“The theory of the IRS is rather repugnant to me because the assumption is made that I, the government, owns 100% of your income and I permit you to keep 5%, 10% or 20%. You're vulnerable, you've sold out. The government can take 80% if they want, which they did at one time.” ~ Dr. Ron Paul (1935-) American physician, US Congressman (R-TX), US Presidential candidate Candidates@Google interview, July 13, 2007
I agree. Not brainwashed but I understand you saying such. DC needs to decrease by 90%, my random figure, since it’s impossible to tell at this time the exact degree of waste. I’m hopeful DOGE exposes and determines this degree and that Trump and team immediately begin closing / defunding government to the same degree. Simply assuming it takes 1-2 years to accomplish this and have tariffs in place to subsidize the newly decreased government is where I would understand a flat tax on the wealthy. No others. Scrapping the current tax code is a massive step in the direction we both agree on. No income tax (0). I voted for H. Ross Perot because he understood and tried to expose NAFTA and its certain outcome. I believe he would have exposed the income tax scam as well, or I would have hoped. Regarding the elimination of income tax, which is repugnant to the constitution, the time is now or possibly never. I say it is at least soon.
I apologize, I didn't mean you were brainwashed. That is what government wants everyone to believe so people get mad at each other for not paying "fair shares", rather than asking why government needs so much of our money.
No worries.. You made a valid point which I failed to address in my initial comment; that income tax is unconstitutional. We both know we’re on the same team.