ehhh, I think it's good to talk about this, but imo there are plenty of legal controversial things people might do... I have in mind for example the Christian martyrs who witnessed to the faith unto their deaths
illegal violence is a quick solution people attach to, which is sometimes unnecessary or ineffective - for example in the OP news story, the CEO will simply be replaced, business might go on somewhat as usual... what is needed is more of a cultural change where people don't think it's ok for insurance companies to rip people off, where people don't support such companies and if they don't like the companies they just build or support the best ones they can
the u.s. of course was founded on "illegal" violence though so there's always been a (legal) revolutionary / secessionist culture in the u.s., but also a history of civil disobedience as well (illegal but not always violent)
The next UHC CEO can face the same fate. Eventually you'll get to where people don't want to be CEO of UHC, or, a person will emerge who will find a way to change the company to benefit both its customers and its shareholders. That's the WHOLE POINT of vigilantism.
But, we did successfully (perhaps...) "vote harder" this time to remedy some evils by electing "MAGA". So it seems possible some "nonviolent legal" remedies for these evils may be possible...
The "whole point" of vigilantism is for a weak minded, emotion driven individual to feel self righteous about doing evil. Keep it real. The society that espouses it descends into anarchy, as everyone seeks to do "right" in their own eyes.
I prefer Frontier Justice in the absence of equal Justice under the law. Seriously, I just listened to the Benz interview on Rogan’s podcast. It is too EASY to pin this on some poor schmuck who is mourning the loss of someone they loved. Leaving a calling card is soooooo 🤡 in America. Let’s look at the stock 💩, cyber attack on UHC and Pelosi’s connection again.😎
I could see multiple motives as people have brought up in comments (elsewhere if not brought up here)
they could be "cosplaying a revolution" to promote some leftwing agenda, we don't really know until perp is caught and even then we'll have to guess based on the info we're fed, about what's really going on
Usually folks want more benefits than their plan provides. They have pictures of the perp now. Hopefully they will know soon. I still think it has more to do with the UHC hacking, stock & Pelosi.
not condoning the vigilantism but kind of surprised it hadn't happened before this point, I guess we are now at a breaking point in society?
edit: i'm seeing a lot of comments like this one on various news stories and forums
I fully condone vigilantism. When the justice system demonstrates itself to be corrupt every day, justice must come from elsewhere.
ehhh, I think it's good to talk about this, but imo there are plenty of legal controversial things people might do... I have in mind for example the Christian martyrs who witnessed to the faith unto their deaths
illegal violence is a quick solution people attach to, which is sometimes unnecessary or ineffective - for example in the OP news story, the CEO will simply be replaced, business might go on somewhat as usual... what is needed is more of a cultural change where people don't think it's ok for insurance companies to rip people off, where people don't support such companies and if they don't like the companies they just build or support the best ones they can
the u.s. of course was founded on "illegal" violence though so there's always been a (legal) revolutionary / secessionist culture in the u.s., but also a history of civil disobedience as well (illegal but not always violent)
The next UHC CEO can face the same fate. Eventually you'll get to where people don't want to be CEO of UHC, or, a person will emerge who will find a way to change the company to benefit both its customers and its shareholders. That's the WHOLE POINT of vigilantism.
I suppose the elites can "fight back" with various measures too though
I am not totally against self-defense, and these kinds of schemes can be violent at times (wrongly denying necessary acceptable care claims).
Even among Catholic theologians there have been "spicy" arguments made for "illegal" actions:
Article 7 on starving people stealing food - https://www.newadvent.org/summa/3066.htm
On "Tyrannicide": https://infogalactic.com/info/Tyrannicide#Political_theory
But, we did successfully (perhaps...) "vote harder" this time to remedy some evils by electing "MAGA". So it seems possible some "nonviolent legal" remedies for these evils may be possible...
The "whole point" of vigilantism is for a weak minded, emotion driven individual to feel self righteous about doing evil. Keep it real. The society that espouses it descends into anarchy, as everyone seeks to do "right" in their own eyes.
I prefer Frontier Justice in the absence of equal Justice under the law. Seriously, I just listened to the Benz interview on Rogan’s podcast. It is too EASY to pin this on some poor schmuck who is mourning the loss of someone they loved. Leaving a calling card is soooooo 🤡 in America. Let’s look at the stock 💩, cyber attack on UHC and Pelosi’s connection again.😎
I could see multiple motives as people have brought up in comments (elsewhere if not brought up here)
they could be "cosplaying a revolution" to promote some leftwing agenda, we don't really know until perp is caught and even then we'll have to guess based on the info we're fed, about what's really going on
Usually folks want more benefits than their plan provides. They have pictures of the perp now. Hopefully they will know soon. I still think it has more to do with the UHC hacking, stock & Pelosi.