The Garden of Gethsemane and the Euchurist are anwsers to a question you did not ask, but I thought you did. So I don’t want to spend a lot of time on questions I haven’t completely thought through or analyzed or in the Eurcharist case, I’ve already made up my mind. I will give you some preliminary answers on the Garden of Gethsemane, but I don’t wish to argue yet. I feel we are getting off track a little bit from the orginal argument of; Is there proof that Jesus is the son of Yhwh in the NT. Is Yhwh evil?

Do you think Jesus was actually arrested for kidnapping that 'naked boy' rather than because the Roman government was told He was starting an insurrection?

Jesus himself says (v.49) I was daily with you in the temple teaching, and ye took me not: but the scriptures must be fulfilled. If Jesus was being arrested for insurection, why did they not arrest him in the act of preaching “insurection” in the temple. Instead Judas leads them to a garden in the middle of the night when he’s preaching to no one, Why? Jesus is even questioning it. What were Jesus, John, James and Peter doing in the garden, why did they need to have the other disciples be on the look out? What the hell were they doing?

[John 18] It is stated that Jesus was being arrested for claiming to be the king of the jews, so I don’t argue that…yet.

As is pointed out, the same word νεανίσκος is also used in Matt. 19:20 to describe the rich man who refused to part with his wealth to follow Christ. The dove-tail at the end of Ellicot's remarks is dasting.

Not sure what your point is here, young man is a word used describe lots of individuals.

Side note: Using Socrates, who lived some 430 years before Christ as a base for how to interpret the word νεανίσκος is ridiculous. How much has the english language evolved from 430 years ago?! I find this point to be nonsense.

2025-430=1595

Early Modern English (late 16th century) - The grammatical and orthographical conventions of literary English in the late 16th century and the 17th century are still very influential on modern Standard English. Most modern readers of English can understand texts written in the late phase of Early Modern English, such as the King James Bible and the works of William Shakespeare, and they have greatly influenced Modern English. Bad Argument. Its nonsense.

Anyways the idea that Mark 14:51 was actually describing a most disgusting alternate reality is absurd given the culmination of everything Christ did and said. It's a polar inversion of His character, just like calling YHWH satan.

Im unorthodox what can I say, I question everything. You’re right it is a polar inversion of his supossed charter, In my opinion so is the Eucharist. So what is a scantaly clad young man doing in the garden at 4 am with Jesus while the other disciples are on look out? The question remains.

For the record I call Yhwh the DEVIL or EVIL not Satan. They”re different beings in my view.

The passages you listed, such as where YHWH said the Israelite's wives would be taken by other men, are indeed dreadful examples of God's severity (and also of the serious nature of sin), which was all thankfully exhausted upon mankind (as a collective unit) at the cross.

I believe we were born into ignorance, sin is derived from ignorance. I don’t believe Jesus died for our sins, if he did there would be no sin,

God was harsh in the Mosaic covenant because in order to preserve mankind long enough to save us by sending the Messiah to balance the equation between holy God and unholy man, further sinning had to be clamped down on.

This is your opinion.

How exactly did Jesus dying clamp down on further sinning, it’s currently rampant.

…but if they destroyed one another along the way, what would be left to save?

If Yhwh, is all powerful, why didn’t he destroy the “sinners” of Canaan, Amalek, ect. himself, instead of sending the Jews to die in battle. If he was concerned with them destorying themselves, he would have destroyed the sinners, as he did with Sodom and Gomorrah.

The Abrahamic religions are destorying themselves to this day. Bad Argument.

Yhwh is a jealous god, he only wants worship and praise, it’s not about sin.

[Exodus 34:14]  Do not worship any other god, for the Lord, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God.

Phthonus he is often compared and linked to the goddess of chaos and discord, Éris, for always causing the same effects as the goddess, using and abusing jealousy and envy to create fights between everyone. Furthermore, they are both Daemons.

(Remember, Israel was unique at the time regarding morality laws. It was special. The other nations' systems were inferior and allowed sin to abound and become normalized. (don't worry about the Talmudic Period segment and further, I didn't even read that shit.)) Sin therefore had to carry consequences beyond itself.

Israel was not unique, The Code of Ur-Nammu is the oldest law code, The Sumerians also had The Instructions to Shuruppak, instructions for the up coming flood. Hell I’d argue that most of the OT Bible, if not all, are copies of the Sumerians tablets, not to mention the Indian text Manusmriti which dates around 1000-500bce, Jews were not unique.

Are you saying that, because Yhwh gave the Jews laws, his psycopathic transgressions can be excused?

God was being the ultimate "tough love" dad to save His kids from obliterating themselves in sin. Not only would He allow the kids to get their ass beat, He'd beat them Himself. Not only would He not bail them out of jail, He'd drive them to the jail personally. God told them what would happen if they broke His laws, and they did so repeatedly; and it played out exactly as God said it would when they did.

“Tough Love Dad” , Kek. What would you call a father who would have his daughter raped for disobeying him, What would you call a father who would send his child into slavery for disobeying him, What would you call a father who would starve their child so severley that they would eat corpses for disobeying him….A Tough Love Dad? Really? I don’t think you are being intellectually honest. It seems to me you are normalizing Yhwh’s evilness. Rules for thee, but not for me…

The Assyrians, Babylonians, Romans, all instruments of God's strict punishment upon rebellious, idolatrous Israel.

Again having someone else do his dirty work. Did your father often have the neigborhood kids come over and kick your ass and steal your shit for punishment? What a horrible father if he didn’t, in your opinion.

Besides I thought we had free-will, free to chose Yhwh or not, free to worship golden calfs if we want. Obviously we don’t.

Jesus often spoke in metaphors …

John 6:55 For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink.

This is not metaphor. I think this is a R.C.C. edit (the whole chapter). I don’t agree with your belief that Jesus wanted to “thin the herd”, that’s far reaching with no proof, when he could of just not invited them to Passover. He wouldn’t spend all that time preaching to aquire disciples only to scare them into leaving?

I understand what most people believe the Eurcharist is, I just don’t believe it, its a problem I have with the NT Jesus. I stand firm on this belief, the Eurcharist is wrong.

First, the commandment doesn't say 'kill' it says 'murder', which makes a distinction. Killing in the process of defending yourself, or during a war or conquest, is not the same thing as stabbing someone to death because they made you mad.

You a John Bolton fan? ;) I concede, you are correct that a muderer is the aggressor and a killer is a victim of agression. Generally an invading army are murderers and the people they are invading are killers. The Amalekites are the agressors, this does not explain the killing of the women and infants though, the infants were definitely not agressors they were completely innocent and I suspect neither were the women, they were both murdered. So I think it stands, Yhwh condoned murder. And you are condoning Yhwh’s transgressions.

Imagine if Sodom and Gomorrah was allowed to continue,

They did, They moved them to Washington D.C. and Hollywood.

Indeed look back through history and honestly tell me mankind as a whole hasn't matured from its initial barbaric and disgusting state, and I'll yield this entire arguement to you and call YHWH the devil!

New York City, Michigan, Chicago, L.A., San Fransico, Seattle, Portland. School Shootings, Riots, Lawfare, Cancle Culture, Trans. Surgeries For Children, Child Trafficking , Child Slavery, Covid Lock Downs, D/S Releasing A Genetic Engineered Virus, Madatory Vacines That Kill You, Allowing Fentanyl, Homelessness Run Rampant ect., ect. Are you seriously trying to tell me mankind has matured? You are either being intellectualy dishonest or you are asleep. Bad Argument. I do think with Trump back in office it’s getting better, we’ll see.

Im still waiting for documented proof that Yhwh is Jesus’ father.