“Don’t know where you got this false line of reasoning…”
It’s called the Bible, with a dash of church history, and it’s been around a lot longer than internet comment sections. Postmillennialism didn’t come from watching cable news and deciding that Jesus must be wringing His hands in heaven. It comes from taking passages like Psalm 110:1, 1 Corinthians 15:25, and Matthew 28:18 at face value — all of which say Jesus is reigning now.
“You really think Jesus is reigning over earth in peace right now?”
Yes — because “peace” in Scripture doesn’t mean “no bad things ever happen” but “the decisive victory has already been won and is being applied in history.” When a conquering king takes the throne, there can still be mop-up battles. Christ is ruling now from the right hand of the Father, putting His enemies under His feet (1 Cor. 15:25), which is a process. The fact that evil still exists is not proof He’s not reigning — it’s proof He’s still in the middle of the job He said He would do.
“You know that thousand years includes Satan being bound… if that were currently the case, we wouldn’t see evil running rampant…”
The binding of Satan in Revelation 20 is not a total straitjacket. It’s a specific restraint: that he may no longer “deceive the nations” in the way he did before the cross (Rev. 20:3). That’s exactly what we see after Christ’s ascension — the gospel explodes beyond Israel’s borders, nations are discipled, and the pagan world is turned upside down. Evil still happens, but Satan no longer keeps the nations in the same locked-down darkness he had before. The prison door has been kicked open; that doesn’t mean all the cleanup happened in one afternoon.
“Done talking with you, you’re absurd.”
That’s fine, but dropping the mic doesn’t mean you won the debate — it just means you got tired of holding it. Scripture still says what it says, and dismissing an argument as “absurd” is not the same thing as refuting it. History is long, Christ’s kingdom is growing, and the promise is that the earth will be as full of the knowledge of the Lord as the waters cover the sea (Isa. 11:9). That’s not absurd — that’s the storyline of the Bible.
I guess you don't realize that you're eschatological position was labeled as a heresy in 381. It didn't resurface until the 1909 in the footnotes of the Scofield reference Bible.. That means for the large part of Christian history, including what our founding fathers believed, the same "reasoning" that I'm using was the accepted position. Your position would have gotten you kicked out of practically any church.
It’s called the Bible, with a dash of church history, and it’s been around a lot longer than internet comment sections. Postmillennialism didn’t come from watching cable news and deciding that Jesus must be wringing His hands in heaven. It comes from taking passages like Psalm 110:1, 1 Corinthians 15:25, and Matthew 28:18 at face value — all of which say Jesus is reigning now.
Yes — because “peace” in Scripture doesn’t mean “no bad things ever happen” but “the decisive victory has already been won and is being applied in history.” When a conquering king takes the throne, there can still be mop-up battles. Christ is ruling now from the right hand of the Father, putting His enemies under His feet (1 Cor. 15:25), which is a process. The fact that evil still exists is not proof He’s not reigning — it’s proof He’s still in the middle of the job He said He would do.
The binding of Satan in Revelation 20 is not a total straitjacket. It’s a specific restraint: that he may no longer “deceive the nations” in the way he did before the cross (Rev. 20:3). That’s exactly what we see after Christ’s ascension — the gospel explodes beyond Israel’s borders, nations are discipled, and the pagan world is turned upside down. Evil still happens, but Satan no longer keeps the nations in the same locked-down darkness he had before. The prison door has been kicked open; that doesn’t mean all the cleanup happened in one afternoon.
That’s fine, but dropping the mic doesn’t mean you won the debate — it just means you got tired of holding it. Scripture still says what it says, and dismissing an argument as “absurd” is not the same thing as refuting it. History is long, Christ’s kingdom is growing, and the promise is that the earth will be as full of the knowledge of the Lord as the waters cover the sea (Isa. 11:9). That’s not absurd — that’s the storyline of the Bible.
I guess you don't realize that you're eschatological position was labeled as a heresy in 381. It didn't resurface until the 1909 in the footnotes of the Scofield reference Bible.. That means for the large part of Christian history, including what our founding fathers believed, the same "reasoning" that I'm using was the accepted position. Your position would have gotten you kicked out of practically any church.