brain_dead...some start out with..."I'll ONLY use this one time" then all of a sudden they are addicted...Fen-Fen is ONE of those NASTY drugs, besides heroin, that can get one addicted rather quickly...
NOTE: That is why so many Vietnam GIs who came back were addicted to the Thailand Heroin...and that's when the piss tests started for drugs!!!!!!!!!!!
BUT YOU ARE QUITE CORRECT ABOUT NOT DOING IT TO BEGIN WITH!!!!!!
So, coming from someone who actually has experience in this department, even if someone immediately starts impulsively redosing because they don't really have any impulse control and just want to take the happy chemical that makes them feel good with no regards for the consequences, that doesn't really result in a physical addiction for some period of time using it regularly.
It is true that there are a lot of people who think they can moderate themselves and lose control, but the same thing is true for something like alcohol.
It generally takes an ongoing period of repeated daily use before you actually get to the point where you'll experience acute withdrawal symptoms from quitting.
Most opiate users would rather use heroin over fentanyl if it is available. It's more euphoric, lasts longer so you don't end up dosing as often, and is actually easier to dose properly without accidentally OD-ing and killing yourself.
Fentanyl is something that is basically pushed on opiate users that are already addicted from doing prescription painkillers or other stuff like that. It benefits cartel users to push that because they were cut off from the Afghan opium supply that they used to use to cook H when the Taliban took back over.
Now the cartels get their fent from labs based in China and they are happy to do so. It's 50x the potency so you can cram way more into tight spaces when smuggling, which they love.
Because the action is really short compared to something like H, you end up dosing at faster intervals to maintain effects, which gets you physically addicted faster, and which also makes you crash faster and harder when you stop using.
Nobody would willingly do fent in a regulated market. Junkies only do fent because they're already hooked on prescriptions and what not and that's all that's available.
That xylazine stuff is a vasoconstrictor that causes skin lesions, opiates don't do that. Clean and pure opiates will not make your skin rot off your arms like that.
Xylazine also is physically incapacitating and makes people get completely locked into their bodies, opiates don't do that.
And narcan won't fix a OD-ing addict with xylazine in their system because it's not technically an opiate and so narcan won't reverse the effects.
No opiate addict would ever choose to do this stuff, it doesn't satisfy their opiate fix, and has little to no euphoria.
In a regulated system this problem would entirely go away. This is being pushed on people who have no option other than black market stuff pushed by cartels who are now in bed with China.
AND IT MATTERS NOT WHAT ANY OPIOID OR HARD "DRUGS" are laced with...one is taking their life in their own hands!!!!!!
Get rid of the Fentanyl and help the addicts get off the stuff they just MIGHT have a chance!!!!!
BUT DRYING UP THE FENTANYL IS A START!!!!!
Don't do it to begin with. LOL
brain_dead...some start out with..."I'll ONLY use this one time" then all of a sudden they are addicted...Fen-Fen is ONE of those NASTY drugs, besides heroin, that can get one addicted rather quickly...
NOTE: That is why so many Vietnam GIs who came back were addicted to the Thailand Heroin...and that's when the piss tests started for drugs!!!!!!!!!!!
BUT YOU ARE QUITE CORRECT ABOUT NOT DOING IT TO BEGIN WITH!!!!!!
So, coming from someone who actually has experience in this department, even if someone immediately starts impulsively redosing because they don't really have any impulse control and just want to take the happy chemical that makes them feel good with no regards for the consequences, that doesn't really result in a physical addiction for some period of time using it regularly.
It is true that there are a lot of people who think they can moderate themselves and lose control, but the same thing is true for something like alcohol.
It generally takes an ongoing period of repeated daily use before you actually get to the point where you'll experience acute withdrawal symptoms from quitting.
Most opiate users would rather use heroin over fentanyl if it is available. It's more euphoric, lasts longer so you don't end up dosing as often, and is actually easier to dose properly without accidentally OD-ing and killing yourself.
Fentanyl is something that is basically pushed on opiate users that are already addicted from doing prescription painkillers or other stuff like that. It benefits cartel users to push that because they were cut off from the Afghan opium supply that they used to use to cook H when the Taliban took back over.
Now the cartels get their fent from labs based in China and they are happy to do so. It's 50x the potency so you can cram way more into tight spaces when smuggling, which they love.
Because the action is really short compared to something like H, you end up dosing at faster intervals to maintain effects, which gets you physically addicted faster, and which also makes you crash faster and harder when you stop using.
I have family members addicted to drugs so no thank you for me.
Nobody would willingly do fent in a regulated market. Junkies only do fent because they're already hooked on prescriptions and what not and that's all that's available.
I got you.
It definitely matters.
That xylazine stuff is a vasoconstrictor that causes skin lesions, opiates don't do that. Clean and pure opiates will not make your skin rot off your arms like that.
Xylazine also is physically incapacitating and makes people get completely locked into their bodies, opiates don't do that.
And narcan won't fix a OD-ing addict with xylazine in their system because it's not technically an opiate and so narcan won't reverse the effects.
No opiate addict would ever choose to do this stuff, it doesn't satisfy their opiate fix, and has little to no euphoria.
In a regulated system this problem would entirely go away. This is being pushed on people who have no option other than black market stuff pushed by cartels who are now in bed with China.