Alright, if you're serious about your position then chuck your phone, your computer, your car if it's been made recently.. then be sure to not go near any metropolitan area.. you see what I'm getting at.
Pointing out structural power imbalance isn’t the same as pretending you can opt out of modern life .
"You use technology so you must accept unlimited surveillance” is just resignation dressed up as realism. People criticize pollution while breathing air, criticize monopolies while buying groceries, and criticize surveillance while owning a phone because participation ≠ consent.
The question was never “can you escape it,” it’s who controls it, who sets the rules, and who it’s aimed at. And right now that’s the state, not citizens, not local communities, not some future hypothetical where power is magically devolved after being centralized and weaponized first.
Telling people to throw away their phones is just a way to avoid answering the actual point. Once you normalize tools of total surveillance because you like today’s target, you’ve already surrendered the argument for liberty tomorrow.
Cell phones are the most important component in the surveillance state. I advocate for co-opting the entirety of it from top to bottom. It's not just the most logical but really the only solution.
That’s not a solution, it’s a slogan. You can’t “co-opt” a system you don’t own, don’t control, and can’t audit. You don’t run the cell towers, the OS, the app stores, the baseband firmware, the cloud infrastructure, the data brokers, the subpoenas, or the enforcement arm. The state and corporations do.
Saying “we’ll take it over later” is the same fantasy as “we’ll use it on them”. Power doesn’t reverse just because people want it to. Once surveillance is normalized, it only ever flows one way.
That’s the whole point people keep missing. Tools built for control don’t magically become tools of liberty because the intentions feel righteous in the moment.
Also, why have you ignored this?: (TWICE NOW)
But let's test how much you actually believe what you're trying to sell here. Let's pretend that everything in the video above was exactly the same....except ....substitute "Illegals" for "Christians" and "FBI" for "ICE", and set it a year ago, when Biden was in the White House. Would you have so readily been all for it? Defended it so thoroughly? Be honest. Actually answer this one question, if you do ANYTHING. Yes or No? Would you still have the same opinion of it as you've detailed above?
Alright, if you're serious about your position then chuck your phone, your computer, your car if it's been made recently.. then be sure to not go near any metropolitan area.. you see what I'm getting at.
That’s not an argument, it’s a false dilemma.
Pointing out structural power imbalance isn’t the same as pretending you can opt out of modern life .
"You use technology so you must accept unlimited surveillance” is just resignation dressed up as realism. People criticize pollution while breathing air, criticize monopolies while buying groceries, and criticize surveillance while owning a phone because participation ≠ consent.
The question was never “can you escape it,” it’s who controls it, who sets the rules, and who it’s aimed at. And right now that’s the state, not citizens, not local communities, not some future hypothetical where power is magically devolved after being centralized and weaponized first.
Telling people to throw away their phones is just a way to avoid answering the actual point. Once you normalize tools of total surveillance because you like today’s target, you’ve already surrendered the argument for liberty tomorrow.
Cell phones are the most important component in the surveillance state. I advocate for co-opting the entirety of it from top to bottom. It's not just the most logical but really the only solution.
That’s not a solution, it’s a slogan. You can’t “co-opt” a system you don’t own, don’t control, and can’t audit. You don’t run the cell towers, the OS, the app stores, the baseband firmware, the cloud infrastructure, the data brokers, the subpoenas, or the enforcement arm. The state and corporations do.
Saying “we’ll take it over later” is the same fantasy as “we’ll use it on them”. Power doesn’t reverse just because people want it to. Once surveillance is normalized, it only ever flows one way.
That’s the whole point people keep missing. Tools built for control don’t magically become tools of liberty because the intentions feel righteous in the moment.
Also, why have you ignored this?: (TWICE NOW)
Seriously, why are you here if you just assume the endless pendulum will keep swinging back and forth and down on us?