Start asking them questions. Have them think about this: How big was Epstein's villainy? Why was he protected for so long? Who all was in on it? What organizations? What systems would have to be compromised? What lengths would such people go to for power and to avoid justice?

Then ask: How would you take them down? Could it be done without the bloodshed of a full-scale war? What qualities would the public face of change have to have? A clean record, a total rejection of Epstein's advances, an immunity to bribery?