I have a freemason lodge right across the street from me. They are Christians who invite all faiths to worship God with them, and do community service work. There is nothing nefarious about it.
The Freemasons are a long standing organization which our founding fathers were a part of. Why should I believe that Christians like George Washington and others were part of an evil organization when I can just believe that anti-Christian groups are trying to demonize Christians?
If some reddit neckbeard is telling me that a Christian group is evil and bad, I am far more likely to think that the reddit neckbeard is a far left Christian-hating liberal. Who are these people making these claims against the Freemasons, exactly?
The same demonizing is made about the Knights of Templar, which were Catholic-Christians who opposed mass immigration and organized to protect their homeland.
OP, the Illuminati infiltrated the Freemasonry lodges of Europe in the late 1700s. It was planned, and that plan exposed in Robison’s Proof of a Conspiracy. This book was sent to George Washington by a concerned citizen, and the two corresponded on it.
https://founders.archives.gov/documents/Washington/06-02-02-0435
My personal opinion is as follows: The founding fathers that were Masons were upright, moral men and Christians or Deists. At that time the American lodges were not part of the Illuminati infiltration playing out in Europe. Over time, they did infiltrate and takeover these lodges at the highest level, and they became part of the conspiracy.
From a broad view this is common sense. The cabal, etc., has infiltrated everywhere, to control all aspects of life on a global scale, and bring us to this point: the battle of Good and Evil, playing out now.
I'm sure there are plenty of men in the hierarchy of degrees who are as you say. But at the highest levels, I believe this, too, is compromised.
Let me add that within the branches and lodges of Freemasonry there may have been successful campaigns to wrest themselves from the Illuminist/Luciferian control - white hats vs. black hats. It would not surprise me if, among the MI leaders behind the Q movement, there are Masons who may fall under this speculation.
But they are secret societies and we have no way of knowing. Any trust given is to the face of their initiative (that which we call "Q"), the proofs as we believe them to be, and the populist instrument used (President Trump) - not in the secretive societies themselves. And rightfully so. Good or bad, how can you trust those that hide things and manipulate others?
I mean it’s really not even that secret nor is it hard to join. Any non mason can go down to their local lodge usually on a Saturday and get to know some of the guys, then after doing that for a few months you can become one yourself. Some people think it’s invite only or it’s so hard to get into, it’s not at all.
I believe you're referring to the lower degrees or initiates. I am not speaking to that..
Getting higher in the degrees is not hard either, nor is it invite only, I would know because I’m about as high as you can get. There are only 3 degrees in freemasonry, the 3rd is called a Master Mason. You can join appendant bodies like the York Rite or Scottish Rite and those will offer additional degrees but those are not considered higher in rank. To become a Knight Templar in the York Rite, you are supposed to be a Christian. We don’t really like non Christians going down the York Rite appendant body. I literally joined because I used to read this same shit on voat, I started following Q in OCT of 2017 when people first started talking about it. I wanted to know the truth for sure so I joined in 2018. Becoming a master mason does not take extremely long if you are active in the community and conduct yourself in a proper manner.