If NATOs reasoning for existing is to protect Europe or keep Europe safe why didn't NATO invite Russia after the Soviet union fell apart? That would have brought world peace. But it's not peace they are after. They want war with Russia Russia Russia.
Not to mention we are helping people who have already proven if the role were reversed they would leave us to die. They don't take NATO serious, you have Germany buying gas from Russia (their biggest enemy) and no one's even trying to become more independent. They won't pay their fair share or even try to help pay for the defense of their own country. Why should Americans have to pay for the safety of Europe? What does Europe do for America? NATO has taken advantage of Americans for far to long. We should leave NATO and let let nature take its course. These people deserve whatever happens to them.
While I'm not here to defend NATO, let's not sugar coat it using revisionist history. It's important to include that these countries were under the evil tyranny of Soviet communism, post WWII. NATO or not, when it comes to daily life the people of these nations absolutely preferred the freedom provided by western democracies over the brutal iron fist of Stalinist soviets.
The Berlin wall was a symbolic representation of this oppression: it wasn't built to keep people out, but to cage them in. And if they tried to leave, shoot them.
Notice that not once have I referred to it as Russia. These were communist soviets. I remember it well.
We had an election to elect Trump and save the republic from the precipice. The founding documents - and Constitution - still exist, and have power. Although the press is "fake news" - it still exists, and can be countered with alternative voices. And on and on.
Czarist Russia was toppled by a violent revolution, and millions of Russians - generations of Russians - were slaughtered in-country by their own government, and even when alive lived under tyranny and oppression, with no voice and no way to appeal or counter the brutality.
Yes the threat is real, and this could be the outcome if unchecked. But that DID happen to the Russian people - 70+ years under it. Out of respect for them - there is no comparison.
It was a lie. They signed treaties saying they would not expand, yet here we are. All NATO countries having money stolen from citizens to pay for “military equipment” that is never realised.
Trump has and continues to expose NATO. The dismantling of NATO will not only stop this war but will hopefully trigger the people of those European countries to see who the real evil is and it's not Russia.
Its my take that the ukraine war is over ukrainian hate against ethnic russians and tje deep states dug in aystem of corruption there, money laundering for the democrats, building deadly viruses and vaccines, overall general corruption etc. Nato is the deep state except the U.s.a now
NATO is the problem and didnt live up to there agreement not to expand right onto Russia's border.
If NATOs reasoning for existing is to protect Europe or keep Europe safe why didn't NATO invite Russia after the Soviet union fell apart? That would have brought world peace. But it's not peace they are after. They want war with Russia Russia Russia.
Not to mention we are helping people who have already proven if the role were reversed they would leave us to die. They don't take NATO serious, you have Germany buying gas from Russia (their biggest enemy) and no one's even trying to become more independent. They won't pay their fair share or even try to help pay for the defense of their own country. Why should Americans have to pay for the safety of Europe? What does Europe do for America? NATO has taken advantage of Americans for far to long. We should leave NATO and let let nature take its course. These people deserve whatever happens to them.
Works for me.
Nato should have died when the Warsaw pack disappeared.
All we should have is border guards, with orders to fire on any turd world invaders.
While I'm not here to defend NATO, let's not sugar coat it using revisionist history. It's important to include that these countries were under the evil tyranny of Soviet communism, post WWII. NATO or not, when it comes to daily life the people of these nations absolutely preferred the freedom provided by western democracies over the brutal iron fist of Stalinist soviets.
The Berlin wall was a symbolic representation of this oppression: it wasn't built to keep people out, but to cage them in. And if they tried to leave, shoot them.
Notice that not once have I referred to it as Russia. These were communist soviets. I remember it well.
Americans in the US is close to being in same situation as Russians in USSR
That may be. But there are clear distinctions.
We had an election to elect Trump and save the republic from the precipice. The founding documents - and Constitution - still exist, and have power. Although the press is "fake news" - it still exists, and can be countered with alternative voices. And on and on.
Czarist Russia was toppled by a violent revolution, and millions of Russians - generations of Russians - were slaughtered in-country by their own government, and even when alive lived under tyranny and oppression, with no voice and no way to appeal or counter the brutality.
Yes the threat is real, and this could be the outcome if unchecked. But that DID happen to the Russian people - 70+ years under it. Out of respect for them - there is no comparison.
Read the Gulag Archipelago: https://www.solzhenitsyncenter.org/his-writings/large-work-and-novels/the-gulag-archipelago
but it wasnt really “their own government”
it was jews
63,000,000 abortions since RvW
the US wouldn’t tolerate Russian nukes in Cuba, so why would the US expect Russia to tolerate NATO on their border?
Can't say it's a lie.
It was a lie. They signed treaties saying they would not expand, yet here we are. All NATO countries having money stolen from citizens to pay for “military equipment” that is never realised.
NATO is nothing more than MIC money laundering.
Trump has and continues to expose NATO. The dismantling of NATO will not only stop this war but will hopefully trigger the people of those European countries to see who the real evil is and it's not Russia.
Its my take that the ukraine war is over ukrainian hate against ethnic russians and tje deep states dug in aystem of corruption there, money laundering for the democrats, building deadly viruses and vaccines, overall general corruption etc. Nato is the deep state except the U.s.a now