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Fuck Sandy Hoax and all of it's actors. (twitter.com)
posted 34 days ago by Joe-Phoqueurself 34 days ago by Joe-Phoqueurself +76 / -0
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– Mountaingale 1 point 34 days ago +1 / -0

Tom Renz says they didn't hear evidence, just made a decision. Is that even legal? Can that court be sued?

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– bubble_bursts 5 points 33 days ago +5 / -0

Yeah, when the defendant fails to appear to defend himself. Which is what AJ did.

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– PeaceCrew 1 point 33 days ago +1 / -0

I vaguely remember that he wasn't allowed to present evidence or something. He said that it was a show trial.

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– bubble_bursts 5 points 33 days ago +5 / -0

Its, as always with him, disinformation.

Between 2018 and 2021 he had ample opportunity to mount a defence based on proving the truthfulness of his statements, or even first amendment rights. He did not do that, but rather decided to slow walk the discovery to the point where after 3 years the judge, rightfully, ruled against him by default. After that point, his window for proving that his statements were true closed and it became only about damages.

On top of that he categorically said at one point in the trial that it ws 100% real: Video Clip timestamped

There is absolutely no repills in this story. He was peddling disinformation (perhaps by design) and it was put into the frontlines right after Q pointed out that Parkland was staged.

In this case did AJ have a chance to prove that his statements were not false?


No, Alex Jones did not have a meaningful opportunity to prove that his Sandy Hook statements were not false once the default judgments were entered. Here’s a clear breakdown of why, and what limited chances existed earlier:Default Judgments Blocked a Full Merits DefenseIn September 2021 (Texas) and November 2021 (Connecticut), judges issued default judgments against Jones and Free Speech Systems. This legally established that his statements were defamatory, false, and made with the required fault (e.g., knowing they were false or with reckless disregard for the truth).
Once liability is defaulted, the case skips to damages only. Jones could not re-litigate whether the shooting was a hoax, whether his claims were true, or related core facts. The courts treated the falsity as settled. 


This is a standard civil procedure consequence of severe discovery violations. The judges cited years of "willful noncompliance," bad faith, and failure to produce ordered documents.

Earlier Opportunities (Pre-Default)Jones and his legal team did have chances to mount a defense on the merits between 2018 and 2021, including:Arguing his statements were protected opinion, hyperbole, or not actionable.
Challenging whether plaintiffs were public figures (requiring them to prove "actual malice").
Presenting evidence or arguments that his claims had some basis (though this would have been extremely difficult, as the hoax theory was widely debunked and contradicted by official investigations, autopsies, eyewitnesses, etc.).
Filing motions (e.g., anti-SLAPP in some contexts) or conducting discovery to support his position.

Instead, the strategy (or outcome) involved prolonged delays, incomplete discovery responses, and sanctions. Judges found this pattern egregious across multiple related cases, leading to the defaults as a "death penalty sanction."During Damages Trials (2022)In the Texas and Connecticut damages proceedings, Jones could testify and present limited evidence, but only on the amount of damages (e.g., extent of harm, his intent/recklessness for punitive damages).
He conceded under oath that the shooting was "100% real" and that calling it a hoax was irresponsible. This further undermined any attempt to revisit falsity. 


Incidental evidence (e.g., accidentally disclosed phone texts) actually hurt his credibility by showing internal discussions of the topic.

AppealsJones appealed the defaults and verdicts, arguing (among other things) that the sanctions were too harsh, that the default prevented a full defense, and that it raised First Amendment issues. Higher courts, including the Connecticut appellate courts and the U.S. Supreme Court (which declined review in 2025), largely upheld the judgments. The defaults stood. 

Bottom line: Jones had procedural opportunities early on to defend the truthfulness of his statements but did not successfully do so due to how his legal team handled the cases (particularly discovery). After the defaults, the window closed—the courts accepted the statements as false for purposes of the lawsuits. This is why the trials focused on harm and money rather than rehashing conspiracy theories.

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