The country you are born in, and live in: That's the country you should love. Which is not the same as loving a government, BTW. True love sometimes means battling with an autistic boomer-parent for the right to garden, or something.
So in that vein:
Free Palestine seems to describe the fact that concentration camp boundaries exist around the remnants of Palestine. The people in Gaza cannot leave. Hence the 'free' word.
But it's a that depends kind of answer: Palestine in biblical times? Which time? It makes a difference - at the Old/New testament divide.
In the Old testament: Free Palestine, may mean you want the strong-man giant fighter from Gath to re-challenge the young David, or something. Then that would not be a great thing, given the great things David, and his descendants did.
In the New Testament: Free Palestine means freeing those who have been wronglybully imprisoned, no matter what their faith - do remember, for example, Jesus praising Samaritans, as an example.
Or maybe let's go with Palestine during the crusades, when the Europeans fought to keep a Christian foothold there, and rightly so, given that Jesus walked in those lands, and people made a point of pilgrimage to holy sites - so the tourists of that day needed protection ... one needed to defend the rights of holy pilgrimage (and the crusaders succeeded BTW: without the European and Armenian knights, there would have been no Jewish quarter to expand from, a thousand years later). Saladin might have been magnanimous to his adversaries, but he would have simply taken Jerusalem, and it would be a completely Muslim country, if it weren't for crusaders keeping the rights of Jews and Christians (both Orthodox Christians and Catholics), symbolically represented in the four quarters of Jerusalem.
OK then, how about post-ww2 Israel, for relevance. After all, Modern times.
So, people were literally murdered and chased off their farms to purge the land - for immigrants from Europe. Yes, there were refugees from all over Europe, and they came to USA and Canada, and the Antipodes as well.
Now, we are to Stand with Israel, or, your are an antisemite. Twenty years ago, I started seeing Isreali flags in my local churches.
What's that?
Hang on.
First, I want people to stop lying.
Second, I am claiming Christian rights. Also Jewish ones and Muslim ones. Also Druze, who just happen to have live in the Levant for millennia. And don't forget the Zoroastrians - even as that religion is pre-Christian, but then, so is the Old Testament.
Human rights?
Maybe it the divide between Free Palestine and Stand with Israel is just a linguistic trick.
Trouble is, they wouldn't be happy with that either. They need each other to justify taking your money. And they want you to give everything to join their cause.
Media and human nature (the desire to be part of a group) push people to pick a side. When they choose a side, they then feel obligated to accept it all as a "package deal". If they try to express an alternate view, they will be quickly shot down and demonized. This is where you get people trying to justify the evil acts their chosen side has perpetrated. They justify destruction and murder of innocent people because they are "the enemy". They experience cognitive dissonance when what the group believes is different from what their heart is telling them.
When someone allows any "group" to tell them what to think and believe, they are allowing their mind to be enslaved even if they have the best intentions.
I choose not to identify with any particular "side". I stand alone in my sovereignty. I judge everything based on my own research (using discernment) rather than simply accepting what I'm told. I'm always open to change my stance if new evidence arises.
I feel bad for the innocent Israelis AND Palestinians who just want to live their lives in peace and raise their families. I believe there are good people in every country of the world. It's the assholes that make all the noise (brap 🤣).
No love for Ukraine? 😬
Nah. The love of country takes a whole heart :)
I see what you did there.
The country you are born in, and live in: That's the country you should love. Which is not the same as loving a government, BTW. True love sometimes means battling with an autistic boomer-parent for the right to garden, or something.
So in that vein:
Free Palestine seems to describe the fact that concentration camp boundaries exist around the remnants of Palestine. The people in Gaza cannot leave. Hence the 'free' word.
But it's a that depends kind of answer: Palestine in biblical times? Which time? It makes a difference - at the Old/New testament divide.
In the Old testament: Free Palestine, may mean you want the strong-man giant fighter from Gath to re-challenge the young David, or something. Then that would not be a great thing, given the great things David, and his descendants did.
In the New Testament: Free Palestine means freeing those who have been wronglybully imprisoned, no matter what their faith - do remember, for example, Jesus praising Samaritans, as an example.
Or maybe let's go with Palestine during the crusades, when the Europeans fought to keep a Christian foothold there, and rightly so, given that Jesus walked in those lands, and people made a point of pilgrimage to holy sites - so the tourists of that day needed protection ... one needed to defend the rights of holy pilgrimage (and the crusaders succeeded BTW: without the European and Armenian knights, there would have been no Jewish quarter to expand from, a thousand years later). Saladin might have been magnanimous to his adversaries, but he would have simply taken Jerusalem, and it would be a completely Muslim country, if it weren't for crusaders keeping the rights of Jews and Christians (both Orthodox Christians and Catholics), symbolically represented in the four quarters of Jerusalem.
OK then, how about post-ww2 Israel, for relevance. After all, Modern times.
So, people were literally murdered and chased off their farms to purge the land - for immigrants from Europe. Yes, there were refugees from all over Europe, and they came to USA and Canada, and the Antipodes as well.
Now, we are to Stand with Israel, or, your are an antisemite. Twenty years ago, I started seeing Isreali flags in my local churches.
What's that?
Hang on.
First, I want people to stop lying.
Second, I am claiming Christian rights. Also Jewish ones and Muslim ones. Also Druze, who just happen to have live in the Levant for millennia. And don't forget the Zoroastrians - even as that religion is pre-Christian, but then, so is the Old Testament.
Human rights?
Maybe it the divide between Free Palestine and Stand with Israel is just a linguistic trick.
Shower thoughts belong in the General Chat, fren.
Trouble is, they wouldn't be happy with that either. They need each other to justify taking your money. And they want you to give everything to join their cause.
Here's my related shower thought..
Media and human nature (the desire to be part of a group) push people to pick a side. When they choose a side, they then feel obligated to accept it all as a "package deal". If they try to express an alternate view, they will be quickly shot down and demonized. This is where you get people trying to justify the evil acts their chosen side has perpetrated. They justify destruction and murder of innocent people because they are "the enemy". They experience cognitive dissonance when what the group believes is different from what their heart is telling them.
When someone allows any "group" to tell them what to think and believe, they are allowing their mind to be enslaved even if they have the best intentions.
I choose not to identify with any particular "side". I stand alone in my sovereignty. I judge everything based on my own research (using discernment) rather than simply accepting what I'm told. I'm always open to change my stance if new evidence arises.
I feel bad for the innocent Israelis AND Palestinians who just want to live their lives in peace and raise their families. I believe there are good people in every country of the world. It's the assholes that make all the noise (brap 🤣).