No sauce, only rumor, and that includes anything you hear from Lindell, for this claim of protective order lifted at this time. Lindell has misinterpreted what goes on in courtrooms and jumped the gun making public statements about his misinterpretations many times. Whether that is part of the plan or not is up to you to decide, but it sure gets a lot of knee jerk response on GAW/PW and MSM until something definitive is released.
Again, as of now, there is no sauce on this meatball. If you have sauce, post it, I'd love to see it. Saying someone said something is not sauce, it is no different than being part of the mockingbird press. Not snark - but maybe just a little.
Below is copy/paste to the sticky from earlier today on this subject that was made to the bubble_bursts first comment in this thread, but is buried in the permalink and does not display in the OP main thread. Lesson learned.
Recommend waiting until Lindell's attorney, Kurt Olsen, makes a public statement. Olsen usually gives updates on the status of Lindell legal actions via either The Lindell Report broadcast or the Brannon Howse Live broadcast on Lindell's social media platform https://frankspeech.com/ .
There is nothing posted to the Nevada court docket from the judge on the protective order being lifted. The new item is the DOJ memorandum recommending the judge / court to NOT lift the order. More details in earlier comment.
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Bottom line... another move on the chess board, no pieces taken, strategy move, not tactical (kinetic).
There has been no change in the status of the original court order granting the DNI requested Military States Secret Privilege Order on Dennis Montgomery.
Nothing has changed.
On 06 October 2022 the USG DOJ filed a memorandum in the Nevada court in response to a Minute Order of 09/02/2022 (see below copy/paste and refer to link to docket) which granted a motion filed by the DOJ for more time to respond to Lindell's orignal request to have the protective order on Dennis Montgomery lifted.
All that has happened is that the DOJ has filed its opinion (with an important caveat) that there is no reason to lift the order as it now exists, that Lindell has no standing, that Lindell's case has nothing to do with the original copyright suit and counter suit between Trepp and Montgomery, and some other legal technical stuff.
MINUTE ORDER IN CHAMBERS of the Honorable Chief Judge Miranda M. Du on 9/2/2022. Good cause appearing, United States of America's ("USA") motion for extension of time (ECF No. 1227 ) to file a response to movant Michael J. Lindell's motion to intervene (ECF No. 1216 ) is granted. USA's response is due by 10/6/2022.
Nothing has changed. Statements otherwise are not informed. Lindell is not to be considered a valid source of legal information or news, but a very valid source of narrative manipulation.
Wait for the lead attorney in the case, Kurt Olsen to make a public statement. Lindell is just feeding the beasts (black hats and white hats) raw meat, which is his function, his role in the movie we are all watching.
Link to docket to follow developments in regard to Lindell's motion to lift the Military States Secret Privilege Order on Montgomery and, if you dig through all the motions and filings from the beginning (and that is what it takes to be informed and not guessing or depending on the Santillis of the world - (playing their respective roles as white hat mockingbirds), the clues as to what is the real issue is (and its not the gag order on Montgomery) is plain (see links to posts below for the Reader's Digest version - but you are much better off going over this ground for yourself).
"First principles, Clarice."
Link to 06 October 2022 UNITED STATES’ MEMORANDUM IN OPPOSITION TO MOTION TO INTERVENE AND TO LIFT PROTECTIVE ORDER
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nvd.46642/gov.uscourts.nvd.46642.1232.0.pdf
Again, the gag order has not been lifted.
Here is the USG /DOJ bottom line...
footnote 4 page 13 of USG/DOJ Memorandum in opposition
The Court should reject Lindell’s motion for the many reasons set forth above. If the Court nonetheless concludes that Lindell is entitled to some relief on the current record, the Court should permit the United States an additional 60 days in which to consider additional steps to protect its interests.
(In other words, the USG/DOJ just made a null move on the chessboard to 1) see what happens at no risk and 2) to send a message (see below) ).
page 4 of the USG/DOJ Memorandum in opposition
"The Court entered the requested protective order on August 29, 2007, excluding from “discovery or disclosure” information relating to two categories of information: (1) “the existence or non-existence of any actual or proposed relationship” between the parties and any U.S. intelligence agency and (2) any “actual or proposed intelligence agency interest in, application of or use of any technology, software or source code owned or claimed by the Parties.” Protective Order ¶¶ 2, 3, ECF No. 253. The Protective Order, however, exempted from its coverage discovery regarding “[t]he computer source code, software, programs, or technical specifications relating to any technology owned or claimed by any of the Parties,” as well as any “actual or potential commercial or government applications of” this technology, so long as it did not relate to the aforementioned categories concerning U.S. intelligence agencies. Id. ¶ 4(c), (e). The Protective Order’s prohibitions applied only to “discovery or disclosure . . . during all proceedings in these actions,” i.e. the above-captioned consolidated cases. Id. ¶ 1. Thus, by its terms, the Protective Order applied only to the parties to this litigation, only to discovery or disclosure within this litigation, and only to certain information regarding alleged activities or interests of the United States Government."
What the USG/DOJ has done is signal to Lindell's attorneys that if Lindell attempts to use the Montgomery provided raw PCAP in its defense of Dominion's defamation claims, the USG/DOJ will be seeking a Military States Secret Privilege protective order at that time in that case.
You should also be paying attention to what happened in the Konnech v. True the Vote, Catherine Engelbrecht and Greg Phillips case on the same day, 06 October 2022...
Minute Entry for proceedings held before Judge Kenneth M Hoyt. Preliminary INJUNCTION HEARING held on 10/6/2022. Argument heard. The Court [has taken] this matter under advisement.
From the proposed court order based on 10/06/2022 preliminary injunction meeting:
"At an in-person hearing on October 6, 2022, the Court again ordered Defendants to disclose to Konnech the identity of the individual that Defendants True the Vote, Inc., Gregg Phillips, and Catherine Engelbrecht (“Defendants”) claim was involved in accessing Konnech’s protected computers1 as required by subsection v of the TRO. At that hearing, however, Defendants’ counsel read into the record the name of a single person in response to subsection v of the TRO, but did not otherwise identify any organization that individual is involved with as required by the TRO, nor did Defendants state or identify whether any other persons or organizations were involved in accessing Konnech’s protected computers despite their previous public statements referring to the involvement of multiple persons."
Now just whose name do you suspect was "read into the record" at the in-person hearing?
10/06/2022 USG/DOJ memorandum regarding Montgomery
10/06/2022 "Defendant's counsel read into the record the name of a single person in response to subection v of the TRO.
Total protonic reversal.
Below link to the proposed court order Konnech v TtV, Engelbrecht & Phillips.
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.txsd.1888133/gov.uscourts.txsd.1888133.25.0.pdf
Previous posts and posts with comments this subject for further background information / analysis:
https://greatawakening.win/p/15JnBH1unC/phillipsengelbrecht-having-opene/
(check comment thread this post for more analysis total protonic reversal)
https://greatawakening.win/p/15Jn22lDab/streams-just-crossed-total-proto/
https://greatawakening.win/p/15Jn1x7AOa/link-to-091222--original-complai/
https://greatawakening.win/p/15JmxIhKrd/extra-extra-read-all-about-it-mi/
https://greatawakening.win/p/15JUHNmiNb/interesting-dialog-between-patel/
https://greatawakening.win/p/15JUHGziAb/q-warned-us-the-doj-goes-there-u/
https://greatawakening.win/p/15JUCY1Tbq/realdonaldtrump-truth-social-tt1/
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No sauce, only rumor, and that includes anything you hear from Lindell, for this claim of protective order lifted at this time. Lindell has misinterpreted what goes on in courtrooms and jumped the gun making public statements about his misinterpretations many times. Whether that is part of the plan or not is up to you to decide, but it sure gets a lot of knee jerk response on GAW/PW and MSM until something definitive is released.
Again, as of now, there is no sauce on this meatball. If you have sauce, post it, I'd love to see it. Saying someone said something is not sauce, it is no different than being part of the mockingbird press. Not snark - but maybe just a little.
Below is copy/paste to the sticky from earlier today on this subject that was made to the bubble_bursts first comment in this thread, but is buried in the permalink and does not display in the OP main thread. Lesson learned.
Recommend waiting until Lindell's attorney, Kurt Olsen, makes a public statement. Olsen usually gives updates on the status of Lindell legal actions via either The Lindell Report broadcast or the Brannon Howse Live broadcast on Lindell's social media platform https://frankspeech.com/ .
There is nothing posted to the Nevada court docket from the judge on the protective order being lifted. The new item is the DOJ memorandum recommending the judge / court to NOT lift the order. More details in earlier comment.
Begin copy paste / / /
Bottom line... another move on the chess board, no pieces taken, strategy move, not tactical (kinetic).
There has been no change in the status of the original court order granting the DNI requested Military States Secret Privilege Order on Dennis Montgomery.
Nothing has changed.
On 06 October 2022 the USG DOJ filed a memorandum in the Nevada court in response to a Minute Order of 09/02/2022 (see below copy/paste and refer to link to docket) which granted a motion filed by the DOJ for more time to respond to Lindell's orignal request to have the protective order on Dennis Montgomery lifted.
All that has happened is that the DOJ has filed its opinion (with an important caveat) that there is no reason to lift the order as it now exists, that Lindell has no standing, that Lindell's case has nothing to do with the original copyright suit and counter suit between Trepp and Montgomery, and some other legal technical stuff.
MINUTE ORDER IN CHAMBERS of the Honorable Chief Judge Miranda M. Du on 9/2/2022. Good cause appearing, United States of America's ("USA") motion for extension of time (ECF No. 1227 ) to file a response to movant Michael J. Lindell's motion to intervene (ECF No. 1216 ) is granted. USA's response is due by 10/6/2022.
Nothing has changed. Statements otherwise are not informed. Lindell is not to be considered a valid source of legal information or news, but a very valid source of narrative manipulation.
Wait for the lead attorney in the case, Kurt Olsen to make a public statement. Lindell is just feeding the beasts (black hats and white hats) raw meat, which is his function, his role in the movie we are all watching.
Link to docket to follow developments in regard to Lindell's motion to lift the Military States Secret Privilege Order on Montgomery and, if you dig through all the motions and filings from the beginning (and that is what it takes to be informed and not guessing or depending on the Santillis of the world - (playing their respective roles as white hat mockingbirds), the clues as to what is the real issue is (and its not the gag order on Montgomery) is plain (see links to posts below for the Reader's Digest version - but you are much better off going over this ground for yourself).
"First principles, Clarice."
Link to 06 October 2022 UNITED STATES’ MEMORANDUM IN OPPOSITION TO MOTION TO INTERVENE AND TO LIFT PROTECTIVE ORDER
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nvd.46642/gov.uscourts.nvd.46642.1232.0.pdf
Again, the gag order has not been lifted.
Here is the USG /DOJ bottom line...
footnote 4 page 13 of USG/DOJ Memorandum in opposition
The Court should reject Lindell’s motion for the many reasons set forth above. If the Court nonetheless concludes that Lindell is entitled to some relief on the current record, the Court should permit the United States an additional 60 days in which to consider additional steps to protect its interests.
(In other words, the USG/DOJ just make a null move on the chessboard to 1) see what happens at no risk and 2) to send a message (see below) ).
page 4 of the USG/DOJ Memorandum in opposition
"The Court entered the requested protective order on August 29, 2007, excluding from “discovery or disclosure” information relating to two categories of information: (1) “the existence or non-existence of any actual or proposed relationship” between the parties and any U.S. intelligence agency and (2) any “actual or proposed intelligence agency interest in, application of or use of any technology, software or source code owned or claimed by the Parties.” Protective Order ¶¶ 2, 3, ECF No. 253. The Protective Order, however, exempted from its coverage discovery regarding “[t]he computer source code, software, programs, or technical specifications relating to any technology owned or claimed by any of the Parties,” as well as any “actual or potential commercial or government applications of” this technology, so long as it did not relate to the aforementioned categories concerning U.S. intelligence agencies. Id. ¶ 4(c), (e). The Protective Order’s prohibitions applied only to “discovery or disclosure . . . during all proceedings in these actions,” i.e. the above-captioned consolidated cases. Id. ¶ 1. Thus, by its terms, the Protective Order applied only to the parties to this litigation, only to discovery or disclosure within this litigation, and only to certain information regarding alleged activities or interests of the United States Government."
What the USG/DOJ has done is signal to Lindell's attorneys that if Lindell attempts to use the Montgomery provided raw PCAP in its defense of Dominion's defamation claims, the USG/DOJ will be seeking a Military States Secret Privilege protective order at that time in that case.
You should also be paying attention to what happened in the Konnech v. True the Vote, Catherine Engelbrecht and Greg Phillips case on the same day, 06 October 2022...
Minute Entry for proceedings held before Judge Kenneth M Hoyt. Preliminary INJUNCTION HEARING held on 10/6/2022. Argument heard. The Court [has taken] this matter under advisement.
From the proposed court order based on 10/06/2022 preliminary injunction meeting:
"At an in-person hearing on October 6, 2022, the Court again ordered Defendants to disclose to Konnech the identity of the individual that Defendants True the Vote, Inc., Gregg Phillips, and Catherine Engelbrecht (“Defendants”) claim was involved in accessing Konnech’s protected computers1 as required by subsection v of the TRO. At that hearing, however, Defendants’ counsel read into the record the name of a single person in response to subsection v of the TRO, but did not otherwise identify any organization that individual is involved with as required by the TRO, nor did Defendants state or identify whether any other persons or organizations were involved in accessing Konnech’s protected computers despite their previous public statements referring to the involvement of multiple persons."
Now just whose name do you suspect was "read into the record" at the in-person hearing?
10/06/2022 USG/DOJ memorandum regarding Montgomery
10/06/2022 "Defendant's counsel read into the record the name of a single person in response to subection v of the TRO.
Total protonic reversal.
Below link to the proposed court order Konnech v TtV, Engelbrecht & Phillips.
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.txsd.1888133/gov.uscourts.txsd.1888133.25.0.pdf
Previous posts and posts with comments this subject for further background information / analysis:
https://greatawakening.win/p/15JnBH1unC/phillipsengelbrecht-having-opene/
(check comment thread this post for more analysis total protonic reversal)
https://greatawakening.win/p/15Jn22lDab/streams-just-crossed-total-proto/
https://greatawakening.win/p/15Jn1x7AOa/link-to-091222--original-complai/
https://greatawakening.win/p/15JmxIhKrd/extra-extra-read-all-about-it-mi/
https://greatawakening.win/p/15JUHNmiNb/interesting-dialog-between-patel/
https://greatawakening.win/p/15JUHGziAb/q-warned-us-the-doj-goes-there-u/
https://greatawakening.win/p/15JUCY1Tbq/realdonaldtrump-truth-social-tt1/
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