If you are outside of the U.S., and not a U.S. citizen, please post what country you are native to. It will be interesting to see which countries of the world are represented on this site. Thank you!

Someone posted an article about a young woman who died from the covid shots. A medical doctor stepped in to discount it a insignificant in relation to all who have received the shots, and all who are saved by them. Here are the exchanges:

Dr.: We assume risks with every action we take. This story is sad, but it doesn’t undermine the significant upsides to being vaccinated. How many mothers died of Covid that might have lived if they were vaccinated? Clearly a lot more than had serious complications from the vaccine.

(other commenter 1): you may be right to some extent. But, if you’re going to shove the upside of the COVID vaccine down my throat 24/7 then you have to also show the downside. · Dr.: yeah, that’s fair. The risks are real, just disproportionate in my views.

(other commenter 2): Young mothers like her? Extremely few are dying from Covid. · (other commenter 1): exactly. Absolutely disgusting that someone in her demographic was forced to take the vaccine.

Dr.: my point was the level at which the two statistics are disproportionate. It looks like just in the US there has been over 4K females in her age demographic who have died from primary Covid. How many have died from the vaccine? It’s not even close.

me: to dr. - But how many people would have survived covid if they had knowledge/access to the proven treatments that aren't big-Pharma sanctioned? And how many people would be prevented from getting covid if simple nutritional measures, such as vitamin C and D supplements, and even other additional supplements were given to everyone?

(commenter 1 responding to me): Exactly! Any healthy person under 50 has an extremely low, probably less than regular flu, risk of dying from covid!

Dr.: nothing supports that nutritional measures can come close to the protection offered from a vaccine. It’s not even close. What treatments are you referring to? The current treatments seem to be very effective. What supports an off label option being better? Can you share what you’re referring to? You lose credibility when you say you have a less chance of dying from Covid from the flu. The death counts aren’t even close. Also, the flu represents a family of over 60 viruses and Covid represents one. An ecological fallacy doesn’t make your point anymore valid.

me: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33592050/ https://www.theguardian.com/.../huge-study-supporting... A couple to start with regarding ivermectin. Vitamin C and D have been known to boost immune system for decades. Zinc is also good to have. Do you really thing the Pharmaceutical industry has your good health in mind? Do you really think the Pharmaceutical industry does not pump millions, and millions, of dollars into lobbying efforts in DC? Time to wake up from you MSM slumber.

Dr.: that’s a prepublication study and looked at rates of infection and not outcomes as you alluded to in your previous comment. In medicine we wait for the trials and peer review before treatment options become standards of care. No one is ignoring Ivermectin and it’s role it might play but the studies are still ongoing. The first study that made this drug a household name for managing Covid was redacted for data manipulation and plagiarism. Currently there are a bunch of studies being conducted (some funded by the NIH) but we need a little more time to assess the value of the drug in managing the virus.

Dr.: did you even read that second link you posted? Seems like you’re just googling your bias. You literally posted an article that questions the validity of and Ivermectin study that made it a household name. That second link backs the claims I just made and are EXACTLY why you can’t take a preprint study as validated scientific data.

me: Sorry if I posted a faulty link; I try to limit the amount of time I spend bringing people "into the light", because I could spend all day trying (I hope to be successful in just one person, but I may never know). If all of us who see through the propaganda of MSM and the medical/Pharma establishment can get through to just one other person, it will be worth it. I don't know if I asked you this, but do you think the big pharmaceutical companies have your best interests/health in mind? Do you think their huge influence on medical doctors results in those doctors having your best health in mind? Do you think Democrats (and many Republicans), who are lobbied by the big pharmaceutical companies have your best interests in mind, in regard to covid? You must be able to see how covid is being used for political purposes, don't you? It is disgusting that our politicians have reached a point in their digression of the past few decades that they now value wealth and power so much that they are willing to let (and maybe even cause) 10s of thousands of people die to achieve that.

Dr. you didn’t post a “faulty link”. You googled your bias and shared a link you didn’t even read. The link worked just fine. I don’t listen to MSM and I’m not a democrat. The drug companies don’t have anyone’s interest in mind but doctors do. They are the ones we need to get our health advise from and they overwhelmingly support vaccines (as evident by over 96% of US physicians being vaccinated). They work. I am a doctor who has lost countless patients to this virus so no, I do not think their influence has any effect on doctors making recommendations in the best interest of their patients.

me: So as a trade-school graduate, do you think you are able to analyze the total picture regarding covid? Why have THOUSANDS of medical doctors and other health professional signed a petition to alert the world about the deadly covid policies? https://gellerreport.com/.../over-10500-physicians-sign.../ Over 10,500 Physicians Sign Petition To Alert Citizens Of Deadly Consequences Of COVID Policies - Geller Report News GELLERREPORT.COM Over 10,500 Physicians Sign Petition To Alert Citizens Of Deadly Consequences Of COVID Policies - Geller Report News Over 10,500 Physicians Sign Petition To Alert Citizens Of Deadly Consequences Of COVID Policies - Geller Report News

Dr.: trade school graduate…yeah okay sure. You’re all over the place. I made no comment on Covid policies. I actually oppose most of them. We started with vaccine risk, you moved the goal post to treatment options and now you’re further moving it to Covid policies? Try and stick to one topic. It’s hard to follow your scattered thoughts. Let’s break down your link: 10k physicians in a global forum sign a petition and that should carry weight? How many doctors globally disagree with them? Millions? They aren’t even signing opposing vaccines or treatment options. The link you provided shows no sources or the actual petition itself so I’m unsure what message you expect me to take from it? Once again, did you even read past the headline? Where did the link you supplied call such policies “deadly”? It didn’t. That’s your bias on full display yet again.

Dr.: I’d consider looking into less biased sources for news as you were the one accusing me of listening too much to MSM. https://www.google.com/.../mediabi.../geller-report/%3famp=1

Me: I guess in about 6 months, we'll know which of us is on the right side of the big-Pharma divide. Unless CDC is able to hide the stats, a noticeable uptick in auto-immune disease, cancer, and other ailments will be apparent in the U.S. Best to you, and please check back in six months. And if you could post one last thing, that would be to explain the difference between auto mechanic school and medical school other than one deals with a living organism, and the other not. (but at least auto mechanics do fix cars; when it comes to disease, medical doctors only treat, and don't "fix") I would be interested in knowing what disease medical doctors are able to cure (infections aren't diseases, but you knew that).

Dr.: it doesn’t matter what the evidence shows in six months you wouldn’t ever admit that you were “on the wrong side.” The data already seems abundantly clear. I have literally no idea why you think these vaccines will cause cancer and auto immune diseases. We have been using this same in oncology for over three decades and there is nothing to substantiate your claim. It’s absolutely baseless. At least mechanics fix cars 😂. I’m gonna ignore that whole last part and just pretend you never said it.

I have never gone to reddit before today. I saw someone on FB post about some church pastor claiming that it is because he is a Christian he thinks everyone should get the covid shot. I tried to find what church he was from, but couldn't, but did find a link to where the article was posted on reddit. I looked through the comments, and they seem identical to the comments people post on twitter. Is anyone over 30 posting to either platform? :)

I know someone who is actually trying to organize a memorial to recognize the "January 6 insurrection". Seriously! I sent him the following email:

You do realize that the "January 6 insurrection" was largely an FBI-orchestrated event, don't you? Just review the numerous videos and you see where people were being encouraged to enter the capital by people who weren't part of the protest group. There are also videos of protesters yelling at the antifa-types who were breaking in. Yes, there were protesters who entered the capital, to do such scary things as take selfies :) You really should quit watching the MSM! They are so corrupt it's really pitiful. What is funny, is that CBS this morning appeared to have been forced to show a suggested logo sent in by someone, it was essentially C BS (the gap was all too obvious) with just some basic lines in the background. You know they would never show something like that unless they were forced to. Take heart, the "good guys" appear to be in control! The blatant election fraud is now coming to be fully proven (but, again, if you only watch MSM, all you will keep hearing is "baseless claims of election fraud", or something similar. The FBI is not a friend of the U.S.! Sure, they may be good at dealing with kidnappings and bank robberies, but if you look into their other activities, it is apparent they have become a strong-arm of the Democrat party (which also is no friend of the U.S.; ask yourself this, "What policies of the Democratic party are good for the U.S.?"). Anyway, like a lot of Democrats, your emotions get the best of you; you have good thoughts, but get fooled into thinking the Democratic party, and Government in general, is the best solution to problems. The truth is, they create the problems that need to be solved, just like the big Pharmaceutical companies essentially create illnesses for their new drugs to treat, which in turn cause additional problems, which need additional drugs to treat. I never realized how similar those two entities are until right now, so I thank you for that insight! Anyway, take care, you and millions of others like you need to be prepared for the "Great Awakening" that is going to be happening very soon. All that you thought about what has been going on for the past few decades will be revealed as largely a lie, and many things that have been hidden will be revealed. Best to you.

I turned on my tv just a minute ago and it was on CBS. The morning show talking heads were speaking about someone on Tiktok who is a designer, or some category I didn't catch, who submitted a suggestion for their logo. It was pretty much just C BS with some basic lines in the background!

I can't believe they would show this unless they had to! I was going WOW! After I saw it. I wish someone has Tivo and could grab that clip!

I haven't noticed that phrase being used in quite a few days. Perhaps they now know the evidence is out and about to be revealed, so they don't want to look as foolish as we already know they are?

Just venting a little :)

I saw some university professor make a comment to an article about how the drop in flu cases last year was due to all the covid safety protocols. I checked him out and here is info from his bio, which I'm sure he wrote: PhD in radioastronomy and microwave spectroscopy and degrees in chemistry, chemical engineering, and physics. He is boundary-crossing, multi-skilled lateral thinker with unusually broad, highly relevant formal academic training in multiple scientific disciplines. He has developed strong scientific capabilities that allow him to find novel solutions to complex problems. So I sent him an email about it and here is the exchange:

Me: I saw your comment on the miraculous drop in flu cases last year. You were being sarcastic, correct? Clearly the drop in flu cases was due to flu being classified as covid. Love to hear your reason for posting the comment, if it was really you.

Him: No the 99% drop was for influenza not COVID (it is easy to tell them apart with PCR), due to lack of overseas flights to Australia (borders still closed) stopping seeding from other countries, social distancing, mask wearing, movement restriction, hand washing etc. The same drop in flu happened in winter this year just passed, when COVID cases were also extremely low. They are increasing now with the highly infectious delta strain but our vaccination rates are increasing rapidly so we should not get a massive new wave of COVID infections hopefully. We should then see an opening up of society and the economy and COVID cases and deaths will be almost entirely in those who choose not to be vaccinated.

Me: The PCR test does not distinguish between the various viruses (cold, flu, covid). Did you know the inventor of the PCR test loudly warned that it should not be used for diagnostic purposes? ( Kary Mullis, now dead, but you can read about him here: PCR Test Inventor Kary Mullis Tells the Truth About the Flawed COVID-19 Test | SOTN: Alternative News, Analysis & Commentary (stateofthenation.co)) Do you really think the same measures that are supposed to decrease covid, and don't, would decrease flu to a level that it could be considered absent? If you do, I have a few shares left of my Brooklyn Bridge stock to sell :) As an educated man, and a scientist?, I'm surprised you have been sucked in by the propaganda put out by Fauci, CNN, Democrats, leftist newpapers, etc., etc. Based on that, you probably think there is "Man-made Climate Change" :)

Enjoy your covid clot-shot side effects, which are yet to be known as far as long-term side effects go. Perhaps you didn't even know that the covid shots alter the RNA of EVERY cell in your body! You really should get out from the propaganda umbrella.

Oh, and you need to see what is happening in Israel, one of the most covid-shotted (it's not a vaccination) locations in the world (rampant covid infections despite all the clot shots), compared to Sweden, where natural "herd immunity" was allowed to occur, and their covid infections are down to minimal levels.

I truly do wish you well, because you, like so many people in our country, have been persuaded (I would use the term "brain washed" but that gets people in an uproar) to believe all that the Main Stream Media and medical establishment puts out. So it's not really your fault, but as a scientist, is actually is, because you should have the ability to look beyond the propaganda and lies.

Him: Sorry I’m blocking you. I don’t have time for crazy conspiracy theories not based on science.

So, like virtually all leftists I have dealt with, they cut and run. It's like they lose all common sense! I thought this guy, as a proven scientist, would be able to break free from the leftist propaganda, but their lifetime of absorbing it apparently has too strong an effect on them. I thought for sure he would comment on the PCR test info, but he thinks it's a conspiracy theory that the inventor of it condemned its use for virus identification? If a scientist is this hard to get through to, I think it will be very difficult to get through to the masses.

It aggravates me so much when you hear so-called "conservatives" (or at least considered "not-leftists") talk about covid! They continue to refer to the covid shots as vaccinations, which they are not. They refuse to mention that the shots alter the RNA of every cell in your body. They don't talk about the proven treatment options, and preventative measures. Arghhhhh! Beck says if he hadn't already gotten covid, he would get a covid shot! Has he not bothered to research what is known about covid and the shots? I guess there really is something to be said regarding "controlled opposition". The two guys that took Rush's spot also seem to be in the same boat. It's like Big Pharma has a gun to the head of these people!

When I heard people saying 9/11 was an inside job, etc., etc., years ago, I thought they were crazy because I just couldn't accept the idea of people in our own government purposefully killing thousands of people to further their agenda, but now, seeing how our own government IS KILLING THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE TO FURTHER THEIR AGENDA, via their covid actions, I now have put the 9/11 "inside job" theory into the "possible" category. Has anyone else gone through that change due to observing what has been happening in regard to covid?

I realize this site is intended for discussion of all things Q, but we are mostly of similar mindset, and often have side discussions not necessarily Q related. I think a lot of people come here, like me, because they don't know too many others, if any, who are "tuned in" to Q and what is going on in the country. Can the site handle a discussion category for general topics?

If the supposed covid spike in FL is even real, I suspect it is because FL has such a high elderly population, who have probably all received covid shots. This would provide additional support for the theory that the shots are causing the new cases (along with the Israeli data) I don't have time to do the analysis, but that would seem to be fairly easy to do with the public data.

I haven't been to a rock concert in more than 40 years (1st being Doobie Brothers). I mostly moved on to jazz, but still occasionally listen to King Crimson and the like. I looked at the wikipedia info on King Crimson and was surprised that the current rendition is doing a concert tour! I decided, "hey, it's time to see a concert!", so I went to buy tickets, and the venue I selected, Saratoga Springs, NY, has a "vaccine card" requirement! How sucky is that? Oh well, maybe by next year the craziness will have ended and sanity can return, until then, it looks like my public events will be severely limited.

I just heard a guy on a cable channel I'm not familiar with, talk about this person, and her not so subtle communist ties. He said that Federal lands are in jeopardy due to this woman being in control, with the "Green New Deal" set to prevent all sorts of Federal land natural resources extraction. Has anyone else heard of this woman? She was just elected in 2018, and now is head of a major Federal Dept. Only in Democrat Washington does that seem to happen.

I have been stressing the imminent (now blatant) inflation with my investment counselor, and what can be done to protect my retirement savings. I suggested TIPS, but since that would cut out the middle-man fees, he was against it. I believe now, that government backed retirement funds may be in great jeopardy with the "Great Reset" looming. Does anyone here have REAL financial investment experience who can suggest a good plan going forward to deal with likely higher inflation, and possible financial meltdown? (and please, don't post, "Just buy gold!")