I was a long time observer here that left recently. Came back to see how events were being handled. Saw the "Q proof" about him saying fight. But I think maybe that's backwards. Let me share a thought from an agnostic perspective.

Let's say that, rather than communications regarding ongoing activities, some posts were comms to activate. Thus why it was so important for Trump, following the shooting, to stand and activate whatever response the original post represented instead of just being whisked away.

As an agnostic regarding all of the Q items, I've been searching for an explanation that encompasses some non public information that was shared when it was ongoing with results that do not seem to be ideal. Or why it was so scattered in general. And comms to be activated at a later date was what I had come to some time back, then sort of forgot about it all. But now, I certainly wonder. And if so, what has that set in motion?

"Dark to Light" that the Q posts use is masonic jargon. In fact, it's basically like their motto. What does that mean in context? Honestly, I think the Q group were probably a group of freemasons using their connections to attempt to rally support. It would explain the occasional inside information (and the eventual failure of the operation).

Clearly, any mason should have known what all the dark to light posts meant, so I would assume that was perhaps some type of recruitment statement? I do not know enough of their methods of encoding information to pick anything out (nor do I have the motivation to go through it with what I do know), but I would bet that some of the posts are encoded messages using some type of masonic principles.

Also, I would imagine this is where the "who you are talking to" bit comes in, as masons are the target of a lot of negative conspiracy theories, therefore most Q followed would be shocked to know it's masons.

I'm curious what major part of society people here feel isn't corrupt and dishonest at this point? I'm not confident that I can name any. Politics, government, sports, religion, business... it's all dishonest. A lot of it always has been, maybe all of it.

It's why I observe several communities like this one, of various leanings. It really shines a light on all the deception.

I've been an agnostic observer of the Q movement since very early on, and one thing that has impressed me has been the hope and faith of the adherents. I don't mean that as any kind of commentary on Q; personally, I think it was an inside person or persons posting, but I also do not believe that it was a successful endeavor, whatever the goal may have been. More like a wishful insider who failed to accomplish their objective.

Yet here I am watching all of you carry the torch, full of hope. And for all that the media loves to demonize the Q movement, what that says to me is that, at least here, these are quality people with good hearts, striving for a better future. Whether or not I agree with the source of that hope is irrelevant; what matters is that same kind of hope and faith has been the foundation of great societies throughout history, and I'm thankful to have the privilege of witnessing good people strive for a higher purpose.

Thank you.

There's a thing I don't entirely get. We see social programming everywhere: books, television, media, education. The normalization of destructive behavior, perversion, etc.

But do any of you ever question the programming that's missing? Having no one to spend Thanksgiving with this year, I did some binge TV viewing. And amongst the obligatory gay characters, almost exclusively multiracial couples, older women with younger men, all masculine men being evil, etc - and each their own opinion on those things, I'm not addressing that, I'm addressing how they're points of emphasis in almost exactly the same formula on almost every show - it was interesting the things that were missing.

No nuclear families really at all. Not very surprising. Very little negative drug portrayal. Curious, given how much of an issue substance abuse is in our society. Extreme negativity about men with younger women. I found this odd, given the reverse wasn't problematic.

In fact, thinking about it now, that one really sticks out. Like I'm sure most of you, I find the idea of say...40m & 20f to be... Unusual to strange. I'm all for everyone finding their own happiness, but I feel like seeking that age disparity would be a bit creepy. Yet back when the cultural revolution started, that was fairly normal. And the revolutionaries are still okay with older women and younger men. In fact, we've seen this publicized a lot with celebrities, while the reverse disparities are rarely talked about.

Is this because it hits too close to home? Is it because of the extreme prevalence of homosexuals in Hollywood, and so it's not about the older woman with a younger man but the longing for younger men that they don't have for women? Is there some symbolic reason in their superstitions? Are we missing some way that it is positive for society? Does that pairing create more successful marriages and nuclear families?

What other things are missing in the social programming? I think these can be very important topics for discussion. The absence of a note can be more powerful than the note itself.

Mostly out of curiosity. There's plenty of proof that there is some form of insider information involved with Q. And a few "proofs" that are disturbing in what they suggest. But there's a point I don't understand, and hope someone here can enlighten me.

What gives you all faith when all of reality suggests that freedom is dead and there is no plan? Or, let me correct that...I think Trump's plan was to provide the ability for others to do the right thing, and state legislatures, SCOTUS and Pence did not. And yes, I understand, to a degree he also set up the military with an option. But no one involved at any level has actually suggested that anything will happen (except maybe Flynn, and everyone who isn't his friend seems to think he's a nut, though I've seen no indication of that), while many have denounced Q and the very idea that there be any resistance to the corruption outside of the court of law, (which is just a sham court at this point).

But, again, if Trump and all his people believe in a court system that no observant person could ever believe was honorable, how do you all believe they're going to turn around and take it into their own hands? If anything, the shuffling of staff and flurry of EOs suggest that he's continuing to attempt to set up a means for whatever men of conscience remain to carry on the fight... In court.

Trump did what he could without putting his neck on the line. He showed great leadership within the law, if poor preparedness (or unwillingness) to mitigate the breaking of laws. Or perhaps he was truly naive about the courts. It's possible. And we can be frustrated, but he was still a great president. No one is perfect. And I'm not sure there was a perfect solution, and maybe that stilled his hands as much as anything.

I'm not trying to be a doomer or a shill. I am more...a neutral observer that wants to understand the beliefs underpinning the massive hope still on display. Not Q proofs, I have seen probably every single one, just as I've read all the posts. I've even followed a great deal of discussion on 4chan, 8chan and 8kun. The movement is a fascinating cultural phenomenon in many ways.

I know many of you are of faith; in regards to Q, consider me an agnostic that you are trying to convert. What are your articles of faith?