You don't seem to have a deep understanding of Gods word.
"You mean the part of genocide of all but Noah and family because the others pedigree wasn't perfect"
This interpretation is not biblical. The bible says that the whole planet was straight up evil and God flooded the place, with the exception of Noah in order to start over. Noah is not a Jew, Noah is the ancestor of all of humanity, according to the bible. This has nothing to do with Jewishness and genocide, as you portray it. It has to do with humanity being evil and God saying FUCK THIS, LETS START OVER
You mentioned Deut. 23:2 to insinuate that Jews want to keep their bloodline pure as the chosen people of God, making them racist and evil. But you are taking this out of the larger context of the whole bible.
Deut. 23:2
No one born of an illegitimate marriage can belong to the Lord’s assembly. Not even the tenth generation of such children can belong to the Lord’s assembly.
This has to be understood within the context of the following:
Matthew 22:8-10
'The wedding banquet is ready, but those I invited did not deserve to come.
So go to the street corners and invite to the banquet anyone you find.'
So the servants went out into the streets and gathered all the people they could find, the bad as well as the good, and the wedding hall was filled with guests.
The meaning of this is that God chose the Jews to be his chosen people to show the world what obeying God looks like, but as they failed, he sacrificed himself to invite not only Jews but also gentiles to become part of the family and covenant. This was prophesied to happen in the old testament.
Your disdain for Jews is really ignorance of the beauty of Gods word. Did Jesus order his followers to hate on the Jews? No. He loved his people and he loved the gentiles. He loved the sinners. He forgave his murderers. He loved the Romans. You should study the bible more. Stop being a hater and start actually understanding God.
Very well put and comes from a place of real understanding. Thank you. There is far too much ignorance among those that claim to be in the family of believers. They fail to see the true plan of the Almighty to restore broken relationship with humanity - all of humanity.
"Mat_15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israyl.
WHY don't you believe him? Because it does not fit with your pagan blasphemy."
I do believe him. Jesus WAS sent unto the lost sheep of Israel. He WAS sent to be the God annointed King of Israel. At the same time, Jesus knew they won't accept him and instead kill him, as was prophesied. Jesus prepared his disciples to preach the gospel of the spiritual Kingdom of God to the world and make Jews AND gentiles convert to believing in Yaweh. Paul had Jesus appear to him and through Paul God spread His word to the Roman gentiles. Jesus's disciples went to the nations to spread his gospel all over the world as was prophesied. Why would he send out his disciples if the kingdom of God was only meant to be relevant for genetic descendents of Abraham / the Hebrews?
This next argument of yours is really telling:
"Rom 9:3 For I could wish that myself were accursed from Messiah for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh: Rom 9:4 Who are Israylites;** to whom pertaineth the adoption**, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of Yahweh, and the promises; Rom 9:5 Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Messiah came, who is over all, Yahweh blessed for ever."
"You don't seem to care ADOPTION PERTAINS TO ISRAYLITES ONLY. The New Covenant pertains to ISRAYL ONLY. The promises pertains to ISRAYL ONLY. In Romans 9, after he EXCLUDED LITERALLY BILLIONS from access to the adoption and covenants and promises ... including specifically excluding ALL CHILDREN OF ABRAHAM EXCEPT ISAAC, and then excluding ALL EDOMITES (Esau) (Idumeans), you want to MISUSE and TWIST his writings to still justify your Satanic agenda under the banner of 'love'."
This is a twisted argument. Romans CLEARLY states that adoption pertains to ALL people, through faith, not genetics. You quote Romans 9:3 to 9:5 and portray Paul to be saying that adoption into the family of Christ only pertains to genetic, racial Israelites, a very specific crop of genetic descendents of Isaac. If you read the next three verses, you see that your claim of racial adoption is being completely rejected:
Rom 9:6 It is not as though God’s word had failed. For not all who are descended from Israel are Israel. 7 Nor because they are his descendants are they all Abraham’s children. On the contrary, “It is through Isaac that your offspring will be reckoned.”[b] 8 In other words, IT IS NOT THE CHILDREN BY PHSYICAL DESCENT who are God’s children, but it is the children OF THE PROMISE who are regarded as Abraham’s offspring.
Paul is saying here, that it is the ones who have faith in Gods promise that are the true descendents of Abraham. "Isaacs descendents" doesn't mean genetic descendents. Paul quotes Genesis 21:12 "It is through Isaac that your offspring will be reckoned.” Isaac symbolizes us faithful ones who are NOT judged for our sins and have a "ram" sacrificed in place of us, by the grace of God. Christians are Isaac, the son of Abraham in faith. It is through faith that we become the descendents of Gods promise, not genetics. It is God, Christ himself who is the ram, who took the blow and sacrificed himself so that Isaac/faithful Christians may live. It's the ones that have faith in the fullfillment of Gods promise found within Christs loving self-sacrifice that are the ones who truly inherit Gods kingdom. True faith means acting on this love, means following Jesus and his teachings, which means love to the point of self sacrifice, in the way that Christ has lived it, for the sake of others, so that we become a "ram" to lift up others in the way that God has been a ram for us, taking Isaacs death sentence onto himself in love towards us. Romans is far more than a statement about genetic adoption. It's all about faith in Gods fullfilled promise.
Christ said, love God, love your neighbor, love even your enemy. Paul says, Christ is an invitation to all who have ears to listen, even gentiles. But you ignore all of this. What you preach is evil. You say, hate the racist Jews and that scripture is racist and evil and that they wanna control the world so lets be racists back at the racist Jews and fight them because it's all about race and power. No. It's about relationship with God and how you treat others in this world.
You don't seem to have a deep understanding of Gods word.
"You mean the part of genocide of all but Noah and family because the others pedigree wasn't perfect" This interpretation is not biblical. The bible says that the whole planet was straight up evil and God flooded the place, with the exception of Noah in order to start over. Noah is not a Jew, Noah is the ancestor of all of humanity, according to the bible. This has nothing to do with Jewishness and genocide, as you portray it. It has to do with humanity being evil and God saying FUCK THIS, LETS START OVER
You mentioned Deut. 23:2 to insinuate that Jews want to keep their bloodline pure as the chosen people of God, making them racist and evil. But you are taking this out of the larger context of the whole bible.
Deut. 23:2 No one born of an illegitimate marriage can belong to the Lord’s assembly. Not even the tenth generation of such children can belong to the Lord’s assembly.
This has to be understood within the context of the following:
Matthew 22:8-10 'The wedding banquet is ready, but those I invited did not deserve to come. So go to the street corners and invite to the banquet anyone you find.' So the servants went out into the streets and gathered all the people they could find, the bad as well as the good, and the wedding hall was filled with guests.
The meaning of this is that God chose the Jews to be his chosen people to show the world what obeying God looks like, but as they failed, he sacrificed himself to invite not only Jews but also gentiles to become part of the family and covenant. This was prophesied to happen in the old testament.
Your disdain for Jews is really ignorance of the beauty of Gods word. Did Jesus order his followers to hate on the Jews? No. He loved his people and he loved the gentiles. He loved the sinners. He forgave his murderers. He loved the Romans. You should study the bible more. Stop being a hater and start actually understanding God.
Very well put and comes from a place of real understanding. Thank you. There is far too much ignorance among those that claim to be in the family of believers. They fail to see the true plan of the Almighty to restore broken relationship with humanity - all of humanity.
"Mat_15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israyl.
WHY don't you believe him? Because it does not fit with your pagan blasphemy."
I do believe him. Jesus WAS sent unto the lost sheep of Israel. He WAS sent to be the God annointed King of Israel. At the same time, Jesus knew they won't accept him and instead kill him, as was prophesied. Jesus prepared his disciples to preach the gospel of the spiritual Kingdom of God to the world and make Jews AND gentiles convert to believing in Yaweh. Paul had Jesus appear to him and through Paul God spread His word to the Roman gentiles. Jesus's disciples went to the nations to spread his gospel all over the world as was prophesied. Why would he send out his disciples if the kingdom of God was only meant to be relevant for genetic descendents of Abraham / the Hebrews?
This next argument of yours is really telling:
"Rom 9:3 For I could wish that myself were accursed from Messiah for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh: Rom 9:4 Who are Israylites;** to whom pertaineth the adoption**, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of Yahweh, and the promises; Rom 9:5 Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Messiah came, who is over all, Yahweh blessed for ever."
"You don't seem to care ADOPTION PERTAINS TO ISRAYLITES ONLY. The New Covenant pertains to ISRAYL ONLY. The promises pertains to ISRAYL ONLY. In Romans 9, after he EXCLUDED LITERALLY BILLIONS from access to the adoption and covenants and promises ... including specifically excluding ALL CHILDREN OF ABRAHAM EXCEPT ISAAC, and then excluding ALL EDOMITES (Esau) (Idumeans), you want to MISUSE and TWIST his writings to still justify your Satanic agenda under the banner of 'love'."
This is a twisted argument. Romans CLEARLY states that adoption pertains to ALL people, through faith, not genetics. You quote Romans 9:3 to 9:5 and portray Paul to be saying that adoption into the family of Christ only pertains to genetic, racial Israelites, a very specific crop of genetic descendents of Isaac. If you read the next three verses, you see that your claim of racial adoption is being completely rejected:
Rom 9:6 It is not as though God’s word had failed. For not all who are descended from Israel are Israel. 7 Nor because they are his descendants are they all Abraham’s children. On the contrary, “It is through Isaac that your offspring will be reckoned.”[b] 8 In other words, IT IS NOT THE CHILDREN BY PHSYICAL DESCENT who are God’s children, but it is the children OF THE PROMISE who are regarded as Abraham’s offspring.
Paul is saying here, that it is the ones who have faith in Gods promise that are the true descendents of Abraham. "Isaacs descendents" doesn't mean genetic descendents. Paul quotes Genesis 21:12 "It is through Isaac that your offspring will be reckoned.” Isaac symbolizes us faithful ones who are NOT judged for our sins and have a "ram" sacrificed in place of us, by the grace of God. Christians are Isaac, the son of Abraham in faith. It is through faith that we become the descendents of Gods promise, not genetics. It is God, Christ himself who is the ram, who took the blow and sacrificed himself so that Isaac/faithful Christians may live. It's the ones that have faith in the fullfillment of Gods promise found within Christs loving self-sacrifice that are the ones who truly inherit Gods kingdom. True faith means acting on this love, means following Jesus and his teachings, which means love to the point of self sacrifice, in the way that Christ has lived it, for the sake of others, so that we become a "ram" to lift up others in the way that God has been a ram for us, taking Isaacs death sentence onto himself in love towards us. Romans is far more than a statement about genetic adoption. It's all about faith in Gods fullfilled promise.
Christ said, love God, love your neighbor, love even your enemy. Paul says, Christ is an invitation to all who have ears to listen, even gentiles. But you ignore all of this. What you preach is evil. You say, hate the racist Jews and that scripture is racist and evil and that they wanna control the world so lets be racists back at the racist Jews and fight them because it's all about race and power. No. It's about relationship with God and how you treat others in this world.