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to you what is more valuable, jobs or health of our natural resources?
genuine question. I'm a hard-core environmentalist (which shouldn't be a left v. right issue, rather an issue that should concern us as animals living on this planet), so to me the question seems obvious.
By banning the Keystone pipeline the only thing it does is force us to import more oil from the Middle East and reduce our energy independence. We are going to use the same amount of petroleum, it will ejust be coming from somewhere else. Banning fracking does not equal clean energy.
It is actually more harmful on the environment considering the pollution from the transportation of getting it here through overseas vessels and railroad distribution in the US. It also cuts 50K American jobs at the same time. It reduces the amount of money the government can make on income taxes, and increases gov spending on unemployment.
Plus, it pollutes much more getting it here overseas on tankers, and we risk oil spills in the ocean as these tankers are moving it. It's safer and much less risky from an environmental perspective to use the pipeline, it keeps energy-related jobs in North America, and it keeps fuel costs lower for everyone.
It's kind of like people who are all-in for electric cars, but both Elon Musk and Toyota have said that there is no way the electric grid could support an all-electric car fleet. That energy still has to come from somewhere:
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/bryan-preston/2020/12/21/toyota-ceo-agrees-with-elon-musk-we-dont-have-enough-electricity-to-electrify-all-the-cars-n1222999
We are not going to be oil-independent anytime soon, and from an environmental standpoint, it makes zero sense to be shipping Saudi oil halfway across the world to us. The risk to the environment, both with emissions getting it here and damage from potential spills into the sea, is much greater,.
I’ll take conservation over environmentalism any day. Why? Because the biggest polluters are foreign countries and large corporations. Not you and me.
Jobs.
For the following reason. Natural resources will be a non-issue. They already are and the establishment knows this but silences the truth. Academia has become a joke, diametrically opposed to the scientific method and the fundamentals of science.
If we had real environmental issues we would be pushing for nuclear power, globally. Thorium salt reactors are one keyword. Nuclear power is clean, efficient, safe and the waste is, irrespective of massive reduction through modern technologies, a non-issue.
Less than one generation from now we'll have nuclear fusion reactors, which mean unlimited clean energy. That means two things.
Energy will be so dirt cheap that everybody will get access, and it will be so dirt cheap and abundant that any pollution can be reversed, any nuclear waste can be transmuted or shot into the sun.
We've already succeeded in creating organisms that feed on plastics. So even before nuclear fusion we'd be able to significantly reverse pollution.
Obviously there'll be new problems with the above, but that's how life works. Problems are solved and the solutions create new problems. That's what makes life so fantastic, diverse and abundant.
With the above considered the main objective is now to accelerate technological and scientific progress.
This is done through the strongest imaginable economy, which is achieved through free markets and decentralization. That is in perfect alignment with the process of life, which is the most intricate, complex and efficient process we have ever and will ever identify.
Anytime the government steps in and centralizes efforts you now have a degeneracy of life. Imagine cutting off the land from water, or putting a massive barrier between planet and sky.
Things will die instead of evolving.
Government is death. Liberty is life.
The above aside for a moment, I wouldn't even care about the environment. What I do care about is liberty, prosperity and health, not just for the select few but for all.
The freer the markets, the more rapidly we progress technologically and scientifically, and the more rapidly poverty, hunger and disease become eradicated.
Anytime you fight for "environmentalism" or big government you fight against eradicating poverty, hunger and disease for yourself, your friends, your family, and everybody else on this planet.
Think long and hard about whether or not this is what you truly want to be doing.
I'm 99.99% certain that you do not and would align with me, given more complete access to information.
Got to create a balance , bottom line is the oil and gas has to come from somewhere on the planet , until we have new energy systems in place