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MITT ROMNEYS - mormon religion! Yes it’s a cult and yes he wants to destroy America! (www.democraticunderground.com)
posted 5 years ago by ThisIsHowItStarts 5 years ago by ThisIsHowItStarts +39 / -0
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– Reasonablebb 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

Ok let’s not spread more fake news like the left. My question to you who really don’t know, what makes them a cult? Let me declare that I’m a patriot and a defender of the greatest President in the history of the USA, President Trump. I think Mitt Romney is a treasonous traitor. I’m a proud member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. People that think we’re a cult just don’t understand us or are told by someone they trust that we’re a cult. We believe the Bible. We also believe that a loving Father in Heaven has given further light and knowledge. Does this sound like a cult?

And we talk of Christ, we rejoice in Christ, we preach of Christ, we prophesy of Christ, and we write according to our prophecies, that our children may know to what source they may look for a remission of their sins.

cult noun a system of religious veneration and devotion directed toward a particular figure or object. "the cult of St. Olaf" a relatively small group of people having religious beliefs or practices regarded by others as strange or sinister. "a network of Satan-worshiping cults" Mormons are a religious group that embrace concepts of Christianity as well as revelations made by their founder, Joseph Smith. They primarily belong to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, or LDS, which is headquartered in Salt Lake City, Utah, and has more than 16 million members worldwide.

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– ThisIsHowItStarts [S] 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Did you watch the video? Thou dost protest too much!

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– ThisIsHowItStarts [S] 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

This post is not to disparage any one who is Mormon! I believe there are MANY who attend that church who truly love the Lord, and are good people. HOWEVER, like the video says - these rituals are for ONLY those who FOLLOW ALL OF THE RULES , and prove themselves worthy! This is how secret societies work. In defense of those who attend The Mormon church, I am pretty sure most people don’t know anything about the ceremonies! Don’t take it out on me, because of what the Mormon church - does in secret! Talk to them about it. I’m just exposing the truth. You do with it what you want to!

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– Reasonablebb 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

I’ve been a member of that church for 53yrs and have been apart of sacred ceremonies in the temple. When people don’t understand something and they’re not allowed in to see, they call it secret and a cult. Whenever temples have been on the earth only those who lived by the standards set by the Lord were allowed to enter. You can take that up with God when you see him. Before people criticize they need to research both sides. If you really want to understand why the Mormons believe the way they do, you should maybe read the Book of Mormon. Then you could speak from a place of knowing instead of trusting man. The Mormon faith has had to deal with fake news since its inception. No man knows, but the signs point to the Saviors return being in the near distance future, then you can ask the Savior.

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– ThisIsHowItStarts [S] 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Did you watch the video? Also I read the book, and I’ve read mama Mormonism and me!

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– Emb2015 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Thank you!

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– making_upvotes 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

I was a mormon... Left the church... They are not a cult.

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– ThisIsHowItStarts [S] 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Did you watch the video? I did… That’s why I posted it. Get back to me after you watch the video and tell me that’s not a cult!. Read my other posts regarding Mormonism in particular and the many people that go there that I believe are true believers of God. Probably didn’t do that either. This was not a post meant to cause division it was only posted to expose the truth. Some people can’t handle the truth

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– making_upvotes 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

Bro I lived, ate, and breathed mormon church. And they are some of the most devote christians I know. Q never once has mentioned the mormon church. One thing I CANT STAND. Is when ignorant assholes think they understand the mormons and start spewing lies. Most mormons are conservatives. And not only do they believe the practice those values. They demand others for the respect of those values. The mormon church may have some things wrong in their doctrine which is why I left. But the morals and values on which that church is founded upon are solid. And if it is a cult we need more cults like it. So the sheep can stop living an amoral life. I am well aware of joseph smiths true story with the masons and who really killed him. And AT THAT TIME, It absolutely was a cult. But some time after the "prophet" Brigham Young the cult did everything it could to become a legitimate church to instill values like the teachings of Christ and family first. So don't spew this bigoted shit. Most Mormons I know hate Mitt Romney and feel he misrepresented their religion. And clearly it's because of garbage like this.

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– Wrongthinkery 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Isn’t there a difference between Mormons and FLDS Mormons/ Warren Jeffs crowd?

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– making_upvotes 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Huge difference. The FLDS is a cult.

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– ThisIsHowItStarts [S] 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Apparently you did not read my other post regarding the Mormon religion. It was within the thread, but I’m not sure you took the time to read it. Are you wouldn’t have gone off on a tangent biggot! ALSO - Did you watch the video? I didn’t think so. If you had you would understand my concerns. But you won’t because you just want to bitch me out.

This post is not to disparage any one who is Mormon! I believe there are MANY who attend that church who truly love the Lord, and are good people. HOWEVER, like the video says - these rituals are for ONLY those who FOLLOW ALL OF THE RULES , and prove themselves worthy! This is how secret societies work. In defense of those who attend The Mormon church, I am pretty sure most people don’t know anything about the ceremonies! Don’t take it out on me, because of what the Mormon church - does in secret! Talk to them about it. I’m just exposing the truth. You do with it what you want to!

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– Narflethegarthok 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Great post. Lol

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– slokill 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

Not to rain on anyone's parade, but Christianity could be called a cult if it started today.

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– ThisIsHowItStarts [S] 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Hey I don’t care either way. I am just making a point that the video - says, they are out to get the USA, because we killed their founder Joseph Smith. Which would make sense why Mitt Romney is a deep state asset! Let’s not forget, at one time he was running for president! Which makes perfect sense. Because there’s only one party the uni party. It wouldn’t have mattered who was elected, we were would’ve gotten the same result! These people hate America, they hate us, and that’s what Q is fighting against right? Did you watch the video?

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– Somebeach 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Watched the video and laughed. I've been a member for 51 years and even served a mission. Please tell me exactly why you have a problem with our church and provide proof of exactly why you are accusing us of hating our country. You are misinformed and worse, spreading your particular brand of foolishness around as fact. I'm here all day and happy to answer any questions as long as you are sincere in your asking...

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– ThisIsHowItStarts [S] 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Apparently you didn’t read my posts on the thread. I have no problem with your church, all I did was post a video about something that I felt was interesting I wanna people I know about that’s it. I’ve stated several times in the thread that I don’t care either way. I’m just putting information out there for people to make decisions on their own. I don’t have questions about the church, I’ve already studied up on the church, and please read my note that I put into the thread earlier. I think it will answer your questions!

– ThisIsHowItStarts [S] 3 hours ago +1 / -1 This post is not to disparage any one who is Mormon! I believe there are MANY who attend that church who truly love the Lord, and are good people. HOWEVER, like the video says - these rituals are for ONLY those who FOLLOW ALL OF THE RULES , and prove themselves worthy! This is how secret societies work. In defense of those who attend The Mormon church, I am pretty sure most people don’t know anything about the ceremonies! Don’t take it out on me, because of what the Mormon church - does in secret! Talk to them about it. I’m just exposing the truth. You do with it what you want to!

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– Somebeach 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Nonsense. EVERY church has some rituals of symbolism. Following your definition of Cult, every church is therefore a cult. The communion could be considered a cultish practice. As could a hundred other rituals dozens of other churches engage in. BTW there aren't secret rituals, thus you are seeing them on youtube. ANYONE who wishes to can enter into our temples are make important covenants with God. You must prepare yourself through baptism, becoming a member, etc. Symbolism is important in any religion as it is in our own. If you would like to learn the truth about the covenants we actually take upon ourselves as followers as Christ within our temples, then I will refer you to the 'official' church website. lds.org. Getting information about our religion from someone who is either an antagonist or spiteful of us, is like going to the Nazis for the truth about the Jews...

RE Mitt Romney:

While he may be a current member of our church, if he is convicted of fraud or worse, he will most certainly be held accountable. I would imagine he will face excommunication. I don't like him, I didn't vote for him, and I think he is a two-faced politician who is currently trying to hide Ukranian secrets that he doesn't want to see the light of day...

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– ThisIsHowItStarts [S] 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

This movie is a behind-the-scenes undercover journalist uncovering evidence of the Mormon cult, and how it pertains to mitt Romney and his family!

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– DasPooh 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

I always viewed mormons as the same as freemasons

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– computerguyks 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

My family are Mormon's! A lot of their beliefs are alright, like Family Home Evenings and other stuff. I watched my two nieces get Baptized in the Church and their Baptism seemed alright. They pray a lot and JESUS is exalted in every prayer. Don't know about the temple but the Bible says "You're Appointed Once to Die, then comes Judgement". So, it's to late to pray for someone that has already died. Needless to say I'm a Pentecostal!

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– DasPooh 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Interesting that Mormon, SDA, and Jehovah witness came about around the same time.

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– Jabber1 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

They exist to distort the gospel

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– IKnowNothing 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

For any who have watched the video attached to the title and have some questions about it here is a link to a couple of the leaders of the church who go over portions of what is seen as well as going over some other aspects not shown in the title video.

It's about 10 minutes long. I'd recommend watching it to gain some understanding, but everyone is their own person. If you don't want to, thats ok.

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/temples/rome-italy-temple-virtual-tour?lang=eng

And a somewhat detailed explanation of the Oxen underneath the baptismal font:

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/ensign/1993/03/i-have-a-question/why-are-oxen-used-in-the-design-of-our-temples-baptismal-fonts?lang=eng

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– ThisIsHowItStarts [S] 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

This post is not to disparage any one who is Mormon! I believe there are MANY who attend that church who truly love the Lord, and are good people. HOWEVER, like the video says - these rituals are for ONLY those who FOLLOW ALL OF THE RULES , and prove themselves worthy! This is how secret societies work. In defense of those who attend The Mormon church, I am pretty sure most people don’t know anything about the ceremonies! Don’t take it out on me, because of what the Mormon church - does in secret! Talk to them about it. I’m just exposing the truth. You do with it what you want to!

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– MooseKnukl3 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Anyone see this banned mormon cartoon. Now I know where black ppl came from. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=n3BqLZ8UoZk

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– sidhe007 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

But they called it....puppy love.

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– maintaining_frame 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Posts like this alienate a lot of Q followers, I'm guessing.

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– ThisIsHowItStarts [S] 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Hey I don’t care either way. I am just making a point that the video - says, they are out to get the USA, because we killed their founder Joseph Smith. Which would make sense why Mitt Romney is a deep state asset! Let’s not forget, at one time he was running for president! Which makes perfect sense. Because there’s only one party the uni party. It wouldn’t have mattered who was elected, we were would’ve gotten the same result! These people hate America, they hate us, and that’s what Q is fighting against right? Did you watch the video?

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– Keepinon 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

According to his Mormon religion, they was suppose to be a gray wizard that would come out of Mormonism to be the leader at this time in history. Everyone thought that it would be Romney, instead it was Trump.

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– ThisIsHowItStarts [S] 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

I have one question… Has any one person in this thread watched the video? If you have, then get back to me with some dialogue if you haven’t, then don’t bother me with your comments! Until you watch the video, you will not be able to understand what my concerns are.

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– IKnowNothing 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

I have. The narrative on this video is full of half truths and twists facts to suit its purpose to push further disinformation via means such as yourself.

It's human nature to "attack" anything one doesn't understand. Imagine taking a BIC lighter back to 1692... They would call it witchcraft and burn you at the stake. Is it witchcraft? to you no because you understand it; to them, yes because they don't. This is exactly what you are doing - going of half-cocked to slander an entire religion with what appears to be extremely limited information.

As a partial outsider looking in, I saw nothing that raises any concern whatsoever. Some handshakes and phrases repeated. Ooh, ahh apparently that means they want to destroy America? As Xiden would say "Come on, man". That couldn't be farther from the truth.

Mormon's are taught to have standards, morals and to be good people; to obey the law of the land and ENCOURAGED to seek out other forms of religions and make a decision for THEMSELVES on which they want to believe; kinda similar to the theory of "Q". That sounds about like the opposite of any cult I've ever heard of.

As far as the acts and phrases used in the video, they apparently have some meaning to those in the know. As you appear to not be in the know it would seem you're attacking the religion based on emotion not logical thinking. The same exact thing could be said about the Salem Witch Trials, etc. Lots of things have "special meanings" in everyday life - a handshake, a military salute, etc. to the people who know about the underlying meaning and reference it serves its purpose. To someone who doesn't know it would seem strange and mysterious.

I would highly suggest you gather facts and ask questions of anything someone claims before making accusations as heavy as these, it's just sad your first instinct is to attack instead of trying to understand - reminiscent of the far left and sheep who believe what they're told/read/watch "Orange man bad", without any logical thinking.

If you want to judge the "Mormon" religion, go right ahead and do it based off of what you know or can prove. My recommendation is to do so after gathering facts and logically thinking about it as to not come off as unintelligent.

Also, if a "special handshake" makes people believe they need to be a better [good] person, what's wrong with that?

Nothing written was intended to attack, disparage, belittle, etc you in any way.

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– ThisIsHowItStarts [S] 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

I am not attacking the Mormon religion, and I stated that in my update on my post. I thought I made it clear, that I felt like there are many people in the Mormon religion who love God, and probably know nothing about this stuff. My statements are merely my interpretation of what’s happening in the video. Yes, secret societies with secret handshake and secret knowledge is generally wear cults start! And what’s with all the bulls underneath baptismal baptismal. I’ve never seen that in any church. This is my personal opinion, I am not attacking anybody’s religion, I’m just posting this for people to make their own choice with their own minds of what they think about it! I didn’t expect to have so many people I think it’s a personal attack on them when it’s not! This community, supposed to be a place where people can share ideas, and allow for other people to make up their own mind and decide what they think about something. If there something about a post that somebody doesn’t like, they can comment on it, or they can MoveOn. I don’t agree with everything that is placed on this platform, but I usually just move on instead of getting involved in it. Yes there are times when I do comment on things, but my intent was not to disparage anyone. And I made that clear updating my original post. I have studied other religions, including Mormonism! Along with many others, and also was involved with Satanists before I became saved as a Christian. Perhaps I view the video from a different point of you because of my past and knowing what people are capable of, and the deception of Satan! The Bible does say he can even come as an angel of light! I’ve always taken the time to speak with people who come to my door who are Mormon or Jehovah’s Witness, but once I tell them Jesus is God they usually leave. There were some Mormon missionary, three girls that used to come to my house! I noticed they were knocking on somebody else’s door and it was super hot, so I gave them bottles of water. They would stop by from time to time and we will discuss our beliefs together. I never disrespected them, and they actually showed up the day after my husband died at the age of 30. It was A divine appointment! And greatly appreciated! So I’m sorry if I gave you the wrong impression that I am attacking somebody else is religion, that was not my intention. I love the Lord, and I do not judge other people based on their religion! I am not God, and I don’t know peoples hearts, only God does! Whether somebody goes to heaven or not, it’s based on God‘s relationship with them, and their heart! I never tell anybody that they’re going to hell, because they don’t believe the way I do! Gods word says Every man will have an opportunity to know who he is, and make a decision to except him! I do not judge on how that knowledge is passed along! Not everyone is going to meet a missionary, perhaps in aborigine may never read the Bible! But that doesn’t mean that God can’t reach out to that human being in his own way. That being said, based on my experiences, and reviewing that video - I felt it would be OK to post it here, to make people aware. Each and every person can make their own decision on what they want to think about it. I’m not forcing anybody to agree with me. So thank you for taking your time, and commenting on this post. God bless you and have a great day. Also, I use an iPhone with Siri, and she generally changes my words and my punctuation after I’m done crafting a post. If something doesn’t look right, just blame Siri!

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– DeadLivesMatter 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

brainwashing is so deep. I almost left when I was 18 but instead went back in mainly for approval from my family. Didn't wanna be ostracized by them. I guess I should've. I still have tons of family and the next year or so is gonna be a humdinger to say the least. Appreciate your post.

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– ThisIsHowItStarts [S] 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

You’re welcome I posted that a while ago so I’m not sure how you found it, but I’m glad you did. I took a lot of flak for posting that, but I don’t care. Everybody gets their make their own decision about information I’m just providing it. I’m grateful to hear that to you broke free from that. God bless you and have a great day!

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– DeadLivesMatter 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Just searched for mormon that’s how I found it. Mainly cuz this woman named Mormons as one of the main satanists along with the Cabala (not sure who they are maybe Madonna’s religion Kabala) and the Jesuit Catholics.

https://greatawakening.win/p/12hl5BI05z/mormons-jesuit-catholics-main-sa/

Yea they paint 90% positive but 10% is really out there.

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– IKnowNothing 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

As I stated it wasn't my intention to attack, etc you at all and I understand your intentions more clearly now. I was raised in the religion so my views may be somewhat biased and I'll be the first to admit I don't necessarily agree with everything that is taught.

Experiencing the religion in my childhood and having nothing but positive experiences only to have people accuse the religion of being a cult with incomplete information/opinions based on rumors, ill will, etc hits home and saddens me. i.e. your title - It immediately put me on the defensive due to my past.

...mormon religion! Yes it's a cult...

People are entitled to their own opinions and I have nothing against that and actually encourage it. Some things aren't for everyone as we're all unique.

As another anon stated I do feel that Romney is either an extremely misinformed/misled sheep, or DS and some of his beliefs/political beliefs/stances do not represent my opinion of the Mormon church and/or their teachings.

With that said, I 100% support the first amendment and people becoming informed and have no issues that you created this thread. I may not like the title re: the cult statement, but thats my opinion/feelings.

Like you said, thanks for your time and response. God bless and have a great day as well.

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– ThisIsHowItStarts [S] 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Gods Speed PEDE! See you when we get up there! ?

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