A saint is a pretty simple concept. It’s someone who is in heaven with Christ.
The declaring of Saints is a process where the Church tries to decide if someone is in fact a Saint. The purpose for doing so is to give people role models to live by. Instead of looking up to celebrities we have all of these different examples of faithful people.
So Christ determines who is in heaven but his Church can let people on earth know if someone made it there and help tell their story. One of the earlier and simple ways is if someone was killed for their faith in Christ. One of the others is they perform a miracle who is obviously harder to prove.
And Sainthood can be removed by the Church if it thinks a mistake was made or new evidence comes out. Again this doesn’t affect the judgement Christ has made. That person could still be in heaven but the Church has just declared we aren’t sure.
Oh, I understand. I live with two Catholics and I work for a Catholic company. I am not Catholic. I just don't believe that any man (or church) can name someone a saint. I expressed that I do not believe with all Catholic apologetics. I do this in the same what the Catholics in my household do not subscribe to my faith's apologetics. We come together on this one truth, and it is all that concerns me when I speak to a Christian: Christ is the only Way by which we can get to heaven. It is by His death, burial, and resurrection that we gain entrance via our repentance of sins. I don't care if a Christian believes they will go to heaven, believes they have to somehow get prayed into heaven after salvation, or that they can lose their salvation. I don't argue apologetics. My point was that we are all flawed people. Gasp. Even Teresa. She wasn't perfect. But the true point was that the article wants us to believe that St. Teresa herself was responsible for something bad that happened in an organization she started and even that the whole organization is bad because they want us to take at face value the assumption that someone did something wrong: thus a court of opinion without applying facts.
Not arguing politics. I love Catholics. I've come to understand how people treat their faith because they know little about it. All I care about is what we have in common. You can believe Peter was the first Pope even if I do not. I'm not arguing about it. Peter was awesome. We can both agree on that.
I believe the big problem for Protestantism is the 1500 year gap from the time of Christ to Martin Luther. Matin Luther is essentially saying Christians got it all wrong for 1500 years when he threw out the priesthood, apostolic succession, the sacraments, the mass, and the understanding of the special role of the blessed Virgin Mary flowing out of the Old Testament. All these beliefs had deep Christian roots going back to the earliest days of the apostles through the Middle Ages. Sure there was and is corruption among the hierarchy that needs to be rooted out, but Martin Luther seriously modified what peoples ancestors had believed going back centuries, without, in my opinion, giving sufficient justification. Protestantism subsequently broke Christian unity and weakened Europe by shattering religion into hundreds of different competing sects and upsetting the delicate balance between church and state.
The Virgin Mary, as practiced by the Catholic Church, may have had pagan roots that weren't so holy.
I think they merged the two beliefs.
Maybe Martin Luther...just a guess, not a declaration...maybe he didn't want to discuss the more unsavory aspects.
Not knocking on Catholics - there is so much beauty in the Catholic Church that inspires me. And many saints whose biographies I read for motivation to holiness.
Disconnect from all the propaganda against orthodoxy.
It is the one true church - and the only one who hasn’t budged an inch and has never been compromised since early Christianity.
The Christian orthodox religion predates the Catholics of today. And is the original “Catholic Church” that refused the pope - and sought to maintain autocephaly (google that).
The original Greek Orthodox Church even reads the Bible in its original koine Greek form.
It’s absolutely amazing how western Christian profiteers hid the truth from the west for so long - and changed the Bible and the faith year from year, simply because too many religious Americans and even priests never bothered to learn Greek.
It confounds me how an engineer is trained in mathematics, a lawyer in law... a doctor in medicine... and a priest - who has no other job other than to understand 2 books... can’t learn Greek...
People disagree with strawman Catholicism.
A saint is a pretty simple concept. It’s someone who is in heaven with Christ.
The declaring of Saints is a process where the Church tries to decide if someone is in fact a Saint. The purpose for doing so is to give people role models to live by. Instead of looking up to celebrities we have all of these different examples of faithful people.
So Christ determines who is in heaven but his Church can let people on earth know if someone made it there and help tell their story. One of the earlier and simple ways is if someone was killed for their faith in Christ. One of the others is they perform a miracle who is obviously harder to prove.
And Sainthood can be removed by the Church if it thinks a mistake was made or new evidence comes out. Again this doesn’t affect the judgement Christ has made. That person could still be in heaven but the Church has just declared we aren’t sure.
Understand?
Oh, I understand. I live with two Catholics and I work for a Catholic company. I am not Catholic. I just don't believe that any man (or church) can name someone a saint. I expressed that I do not believe with all Catholic apologetics. I do this in the same what the Catholics in my household do not subscribe to my faith's apologetics. We come together on this one truth, and it is all that concerns me when I speak to a Christian: Christ is the only Way by which we can get to heaven. It is by His death, burial, and resurrection that we gain entrance via our repentance of sins. I don't care if a Christian believes they will go to heaven, believes they have to somehow get prayed into heaven after salvation, or that they can lose their salvation. I don't argue apologetics. My point was that we are all flawed people. Gasp. Even Teresa. She wasn't perfect. But the true point was that the article wants us to believe that St. Teresa herself was responsible for something bad that happened in an organization she started and even that the whole organization is bad because they want us to take at face value the assumption that someone did something wrong: thus a court of opinion without applying facts. Not arguing politics. I love Catholics. I've come to understand how people treat their faith because they know little about it. All I care about is what we have in common. You can believe Peter was the first Pope even if I do not. I'm not arguing about it. Peter was awesome. We can both agree on that.
I believe the big problem for Protestantism is the 1500 year gap from the time of Christ to Martin Luther. Matin Luther is essentially saying Christians got it all wrong for 1500 years when he threw out the priesthood, apostolic succession, the sacraments, the mass, and the understanding of the special role of the blessed Virgin Mary flowing out of the Old Testament. All these beliefs had deep Christian roots going back to the earliest days of the apostles through the Middle Ages. Sure there was and is corruption among the hierarchy that needs to be rooted out, but Martin Luther seriously modified what peoples ancestors had believed going back centuries, without, in my opinion, giving sufficient justification. Protestantism subsequently broke Christian unity and weakened Europe by shattering religion into hundreds of different competing sects and upsetting the delicate balance between church and state.
The Virgin Mary, as practiced by the Catholic Church, may have had pagan roots that weren't so holy.
I think they merged the two beliefs.
Maybe Martin Luther...just a guess, not a declaration...maybe he didn't want to discuss the more unsavory aspects.
Not knocking on Catholics - there is so much beauty in the Catholic Church that inspires me. And many saints whose biographies I read for motivation to holiness.
Also not knocking on pagans.
Just some of the degenerate types.
I won't go into it more here.
Christian orthodoxy solves all your problems.
Disconnect from all the propaganda against orthodoxy.
It is the one true church - and the only one who hasn’t budged an inch and has never been compromised since early Christianity.
The Christian orthodox religion predates the Catholics of today. And is the original “Catholic Church” that refused the pope - and sought to maintain autocephaly (google that).
The original Greek Orthodox Church even reads the Bible in its original koine Greek form.
It’s absolutely amazing how western Christian profiteers hid the truth from the west for so long - and changed the Bible and the faith year from year, simply because too many religious Americans and even priests never bothered to learn Greek.
It confounds me how an engineer is trained in mathematics, a lawyer in law... a doctor in medicine... and a priest - who has no other job other than to understand 2 books... can’t learn Greek...