I invite you to join in our prayer group we have people of every religion and would like to ask if I would join. Prayer or stillness 1 min at 5 PM pst in unity with each other. What r u thoughts
I invite you to join in our prayer group we have people of every religion and would like to ask if I would join. Prayer or stillness 1 min at 5 PM pst in unity with each other. What r u thoughts
I’m interested! I don’t subscribe to any religion... but I believe in god and spirituality. Not sure what I’m considered, lol. Anyone knows? I just tell people I’m spiritual not religious.
Thank You for posting another religious option here other than Christianity.
This forum needs more religious diversity and views. There are many Christians here believe they have the only Truth, they do not. They have been brainwashed into thinking Jesus is the only way. He is not. They have been taught fear, fear in questioning Jesus, fear in not believing in Jesus.
This is by design.The Catholic Church controlled the narrative of Jesus for way too long and has warped and tailored it for their needs of control.
I would suggest Gnosticism for an account of Jesus that has not been corrupted by the C.C. I would also suggest looking at religious texts as more of a hidden history or hidden knowledge rather than something to pledge allegiance to or worship until you know what or who you are pledging or worshiping.
Q clearly states:
4535
They want you divided.
Divided by religion...
...When you are awake, you stand on the outside of the stable (‘group-think’ collective), and have ‘free thought’.
"Free thought" is a philosophical viewpoint which holds that positions regarding truth should be formed on the basis of logic, reason, and empiricism, rather than authority, tradition, revelation, or dogma.
This hymn describes what happens to someone who takes Soma (adenel chrome)
and is then persuaded by the Ladies in Yellow Garments to go through the Svadha sacrifice (the blackeye club) also called the Shamir in Hebrew texts.
Rig Veda 8.48
01-Svadha the snake of the eye, flows down that path (optic nerve) to the mace (brain stem/medulla) positioned above the central pole (ventricular system above the brain stem) The sacrafice is preformed. The goddess Red(Swift) Tara manifests, arises
02-The prostitute, the goddess of death increases human soma of the weakened/defective eyebrow (ThirdEye/Ventricular) Giving the ablity to wander thru Material existence (time, past lives,alternate lives, the three worlds)
03-Half of the Universal Soul to go to Mother Aditi (who) remains (at the) Sword of the Hunter constellation by the authority of the Lord for the purpose of (the lord)
04-the Chandra and Indra are companions, Gods of Death, cultivating disheveled murderers, lovers of murder, who take pleasure in the imposing the possessing force upon anyone who
05-obtained Ama (adrenalchrome). Chandra attains them, they attain eternal life, deathless, freedom from all fears, it does not come with “effulgence of the sun” (or) control of the senses like Indra, Chandra and Varuna
06-What is the meaning for the want of still insufficient radiance? Krishna, please describe; being without attachment, what is the meaning (for) exhaulting rascals (disheveled murderers)? Rama the always truthful human manifestation
07-kindly described, “Do not distress the repetition of birth and death. Within the heart was made to attain the moon (radiance, not as bright as the sun. silver not gold). To drink only Soma from an animal slaughter appears splendid. A beatutiful servant
08-appears, like a friend, to think of the lord as a friend, (you appear) very important, very powerful. (The servant) kindly describes those who are sober and most intelligent
09-These two (servants), do not speak(with?); Whose garment is yellow (&) Urvashi. (They) incessanlty (want you to become) As I am, a serpant like her. You are not of the liberated living entities or a demigod, (You are not) an attendant of Indra.
10-Those devotees(deheveled murders), when (they) kill, they are freed from the sense of sight and the sense of taste. The activities of TheMessenger(Agni); Agni removes them because of the labor, they return to the higher planetary system to the tormenting heat of the forest of fire. Because of the labor of the primeval sacrafice. The performer(Yaska/Naga?) enjoys the suffering and obtain
11-Mathita, Extending from all sides,all over like a dense rain cloud made of material energy(fear aurora) known as Mathita (which means) complete mental distress. Diti the leader is taken care of first. She appears resplendant (which causes great fear and creates Mathita), the second being Karna the (naga)snake is unleashed, has an uncontrollable appetite devores the organs and secretions
12-rapidly and with excessive pleasure, Asoma theYaksa Snake becomes mentaly instable with intoxication. They have vowed to Mother Aditi to become a Wander, to allow manifestations to come in (to their body) and be used as currency(prostitution) for the “playground”, bound by possession to eat / consume children
13-to refresh, quicken(thinking?), make powerful the Actor*. Padamavati the chairoteer leaves. A bee is to accumulate a large earth army, to collect rta(true/loyal) Shiva demons…
That's alot of layers to process I need to let it sink in and then we I want to hear more. Maybe other will understand easier but all the stuff u said was deep thank u for this ky friend
I started off by just trying to fimialize myself with the different gods.
Once I became somewhat familiar with them I tried to find similarities with others gods in other religions (comparative mythology) Indra=Zeus=Jupiter=Hadad=ect. For a beginner the names can be difficult and the number of characters and gods can overwhelm, stick with it...
I then began with playing around with translating certain Rig Veda Hymns myself and found a wealth of knowledge that is being deliberately hidden or mistranslated. The translation process can be very time consuming but it fascinates me.
Brahman is the one god. Hindus do not typically worship him because the understanding of Brahman is so indescribable, they dont even try.
Hinduism includes a diversity of ideas on spirituality and traditions, but has no ecclesiastical order, no unquestionable religious authorities, no governing body, no prophet(s) nor any binding holy book; Hindus can choose to be polytheistic, pantheistic, panentheistic, pandeistic, henotheistic, monotheistic, monistic, agnostic, atheistic or humanist. According to Doniger, "ideas about all the major issues of faith and lifestyle – vegetarianism, nonviolence, belief in rebirth, even caste – are subjects of debate, not dogma." There is also a strong Hindu tradition of questioning authority in order to deepen the understanding of these truths and to further develop the tradition.
Then there is the Trinity: Vishnu, Brahma and Shiva who incarnate in this world. There are several avatars of these three gods.
He seems to talk in parables a lot, and is a good story teller. I don't have a problem with him, but I gotta admit his dress and jewelry are immaculate which makes me wonder how much money he's making. To be honest Im kind of leery. Take him with a grain of salt.
Ok thanks cause that's where I was lead when I first started meditating. I still check into his channel from time to time but I do feel more distance with him lately so ur advice helps me keep my guard up
Thank u this is good surface layer remember I dint know much about these religions except meditation I have in common..its why I brought them up last. Meditation is actually a fact meaning if u actually do it and slowly increase the time. Your learn to silence the chatter. I know how hard it is though. Even 1 min most people cant sit without a thought
"The Lost Years of Jesus" is a phenomenal book. It explores the theory Jesus traveled throughout Asia; which makes up for the undocumented years in the Bible.
I am praying that you are talking to them about the Lord Jesus Christ. Remember that their souls are not saved unless they have repented of their sins and accepted the Lord Jesus Christ as their personal Savior. To do otherwise is sentencing them to death, you have the truth and you know that they are walking towards a cliff, instead of stopping them, you watch them walk off that ledge to save yourself some discomfort. I do not believe that is the mission God sent you on.
Please look to the Bible and ask God what He would have you do.
Nothing better than that. Don't force your religion on others who may not want it, regardless of what your faith teaches you. That itself will guarantee a lot of peace in the world.
Why do you think the muzzlims are violent, because they have no other aim, but to convert everyone through any and every means necessary to islam. That is it, and they have killed billions since they started.
So live in peace and let others live in peace as well.
I agree with you, God does not force Himself onto anyone. If God doesn't do it, who am I?
To fellowship with a Hindu, Buddhist, Muslim, etc is a different thing all together. To do this is recognizing that their Gods are equal to God. God is a jealous God.
What you do not understand is that OP is my friend. I know the mission he is on. I want him to be successful so I am asking him to seek guidance from God. What OP needs to keep in mind that is that Satan is hard at work fighting against God. Being a mere man, OP can easily be led astray by Satan so it is important to check in with the Lord often.
Please be aware that the word God mean the one with no equal, there is only one God and due to differences in cultures people knows him in different ways.
God want all his children to come back to him, why he would discriminate on culture? Time, place and circumstance. There is only 1 God, be careful on doing an offense to God.
There is one God and He had made His characteristics known to us so that we would be able to discern between those who claim to be equal to Him as Satan had tried to do and He that is the One God.
If what you say is true, then can you explain the differences in the characteristics between God and each of the false gods you are defending?
I don't know if it could be healthy with you, but lets give it a shot.
Who are the false Gods? There is a fallacy there, there is only 1 God, the rest are known as Demigods, or as you know them as Angels.
Materialistic people tend to worship anything, from dogs, to artists, so many worship these powerful demigods, but that doesn't mean they are, or present themselves as God... They can grant boons, as any very rich person can, but when they do is under the purview of "God"
So, when you say false gods, your are either mistaken or you don't have proper knowledge. There is only one God.
There's a key issue between Christianity and Vedic religions on the nature of what constitutes a "god." In Christianity, we inherit from Judaism a recognition that the term "god" can only legitimately refer to the Most High God and that any other use of the term is done in pretense. There is a distinct understanding that the Most High God is jealous and does not share His highest honor which is carried under the term "god." In Vedic faiths, the term "god" is generally used for lesser emanations like Devas as well as the Supreme Being. (which they have named Brahma)
There is an issue in terms of a Creator/Creation distinction which is strongly maintained in the Abrahamic tradition. The Vedic tradition seems to interpret reality as layers of Absolute, "Divine+Creation" and Creation-only. Consequently, there's issues arising from both doctrine and ontology. The ontological aspect that it's less beneficial to worship a middle man than to worship the Source. Yes, a common objection raised by many non-Christians is that most Christians are Trinitarians and recognize that God reveals Himself in three personal forms but this is not understanding the doctrine. The Trinity are not separate beings acting as middlemen but coequal personal aspects of the same Divine Godhead/Nature. The Nature is indivisible. The distinction is in terms of a personal economy of Divine actions which manifest in distinct persons: God the Father, the Word and the Holy Spirit whom are necessary to understand and receive Salvation.
Hinduism sees all Devas as coequal emanations of Brahma worthy of worship by themselves. This is a serious conflict with Christian monotheism since YHWH is a jealous Supreme Being who does not like the highest honors due to Him alone being given to lesser beings. Angels do not seek worship. While some traditions of Christianity may venerate creatures like angels and saints in a commemorative or petitionary sense this may never be raised to the same sense of absolute devotion and trust that belongs to the Most High God.
That's why in the Vedic tradition are called devas and not Param isvara, and Brahma is the secondary creator not the Supreme absolute truth, God, hence the term God, even in the Vedic tradition belongs to the one, the Param isvara, the rest are below. That's why it's a falacy to say that there are many gods.
That's why you can find in the Katha-Upanishad
nityo nityānāṁ cetanaś cetanānām
eko bahūnāṁ yo vidadhāti kāmān
tam ātma-sthaṁ ye ’nupaśyanti dhīrās
teṣāṁ śāntiḥ śāśvatī netareṣām
(Kaṭha Upaniṣad 2.2.13)
He is the prime eternal among all eternals. He is the supreme living entity of all living entities, and He alone is maintaining all life.
Hinduism is an umbrella term for many different practices which are deviations from sanatana dharma or Vaishnavism, that it's based on the worship of the supreme controller, the source of everything, the supreme Brahman, God.
So, as I said before, there's only one God, many can say what they want but that will not change the truth.
It's an interesting practise that of which many say my God is the true God, but that carries dissonance in itself, because your God being the source of all life in itself, that who has no second, is the God of all and not only for those who worship him but also for those who negate him. Those who still abide by that presentation are not only not understanding the underlying connotation of the word God but are also negating all his own brothers, sons of God. Whose father will reject his son?
I pray you try to understand that I'm not trying to minimize your faith but trying to enhance the glory of God, father of all.
Hmm. That's interesting. As you can tell, I'm operating from a Christian paradigm so a lot of your beliefs are foreign to my understanding. I apologize for any mistakes I made about you here.
So, I guess I wasn't really aware that the Vedic tradition can be interpreted to teach a single Godhead like that. Your Scriptures have a lot of references to Devas in such a way that it comes off as worshiping those rather than a God above that. I know Brahma is seen to be involved in every other Deva's operation. I also know I've read points about Para-Brahman and Brahma reincarnating but that's not really something that clicks well for me. After all, Judaism has more experience dealing with the concept of reincarnation (gilgul ha neshamot) in its mystical literature than Christianity. We emphasize the Resurrection of the Dead (t'chiyat ha metim) to everlasting life (aionion zoe) at the end of time. So, in that sense, the closest concept I have is a "type" which is used to describe the connection of Elijah and John the Baptist. But that's not the same soul being cycled around.
Anyway, refocusing... So what it seems like you're saying that the "reincarnating Brahma" is more like a benevolent Demiurge (to borrow a term from Gnosticism that is representative) or the Jewish idea of Metatron (the angel who helps YHWH create) rather than what the Abrahamic faiths understand as the Most High God/El Elyon. That's rather different than I was expecting.
I suspect there's a lot of hidden history buried in the Middle East of a prior conflict between the Vedic and Abrahamic religions that's been somewhat buried which might be involved in producing these differences. Abraham is said in Genesis/Bereshith to have come from Ur Kasidim and rejected his fathers (Terah's) gods in favor of El Elyon/El Shaddai. (The Most High) Also Zoroaster also rejected Daevas and promoted Ahura Mazda as his vision of the Supreme God. Likely both of these were confluent into the Jewish tradition's own rejection of "other gods" which ultimately gave us our understanding in Christianity that the term Divinity is restricted only to the Most High God as St. Paul expressed in 1 Corinthians 8:6. As I said before, the most distinction we have that might imply multiplicity is that God is also Triune. We understand God necessarily operating in thee distinct "hypostases" to accommodate the principle of the Logos and Divine Wisdom that are necessary for Salvation to exist without dividing His Nature and Will. The Trinity isn't independent wills acting in cooperation with the Father but an economy of God's eternal work manifesting itself into distinct personal manifestations.
I get the sense from Vedic literature that these Devas act with their own will and their connection to Brahma is merely in the sense that all souls derive from the origin.
Thank u friend. Your one of my "people" one of first that I reached out to and u accepted my love and mission with open arms. I love everyone here but God gave me a select handful that I grew with before I really set out for this mission completely. I love u girl. We are changing the world. Keep making me stand in Gods love I will always take a step back and exam when point something out. Nothing but respect. GOD WINS
Why do non Christians act as if they're having something forced on them when a Christian states their beliefs to them? You know nobody is forcing you to do anything but some part of you realizes what you're hearing is true, so that is what compels you to believe. Not the person telling you about it. I spent years as an atheist and then a Buddhist for a few more. It is much better than being a satanist or atheist but ultimately it is not the answer. Some part of me knew Jesus was different and not just another good teacher or enlightened individual, but my brain took years to be able to comprehend and accept it. Your brain is just flesh, it will fight you when you start to right your mind.
Thank you my friend as always your words are greatly respected. Right now I'm building bridges so we find common ground the rest that u speak will come but plz stay in my corner dont let me forget what u spoke love u friend
Jai Shri Ram
I invite you to join in our prayer group we have people of every religion and would like to ask if I would join. Prayer or stillness 1 min at 5 PM pst in unity with each other. What r u thoughts
I pray every day for President Trump, no worries, you have more concerned people all over the world than you think.
So let's gather these people my friend
thank you for the invite and i appreciate it, but no thank you.
I pray by myself and in private.
Live Long and Prosper :-)
Jai Shri Ram
Amen brother keep praying. If u ever need community we r here to talk about whatever pray is personal I got mad respect for that love u
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I invite you to join in our prayer group we have people of every religion and would like to ask if I would join. Prayer or stillness 1 min at 5 PM pst in unity with each other. What r u thoughts
I’m interested! I don’t subscribe to any religion... but I believe in god and spirituality. Not sure what I’m considered, lol. Anyone knows? I just tell people I’m spiritual not religious.
I think this will be a good exercise for me.
https://communities.win/c/GreatAwakening/p/12hR7aBmXp/unity-prayer-day-5/ This is the prayer thread feel free to pray what ever if u would like.
https://communities.win/c/Christianity/ Here is the SUb community we allow everyone honest open convo no shoving opinions and love each other
I love u friend
Thank You for posting another religious option here other than Christianity.
This forum needs more religious diversity and views. There are many Christians here believe they have the only Truth, they do not. They have been brainwashed into thinking Jesus is the only way. He is not. They have been taught fear, fear in questioning Jesus, fear in not believing in Jesus.
This is by design.The Catholic Church controlled the narrative of Jesus for way too long and has warped and tailored it for their needs of control.
I would suggest Gnosticism for an account of Jesus that has not been corrupted by the C.C. I would also suggest looking at religious texts as more of a hidden history or hidden knowledge rather than something to pledge allegiance to or worship until you know what or who you are pledging or worshiping.
Q clearly states:
4535
They want you divided.
Divided by religion...
...When you are awake, you stand on the outside of the stable (‘group-think’ collective), and have ‘free thought’.
"Free thought" is a philosophical viewpoint which holds that positions regarding truth should be formed on the basis of logic, reason, and empiricism, rather than authority, tradition, revelation, or dogma.
I try my best to get everyone involved. I think we have brought in most of them now
I encourage you to post more here on Hinduism and Buddhism.
I would look forward to the conversations it could spark.
I have studied Hinduism and find it fascinating.
Can u post what u have learned I'm trying to spark convo I dlnt really know much about these religions. Teach me plz
This hymn describes what happens to someone who takes Soma (adenel chrome) and is then persuaded by the Ladies in Yellow Garments to go through the Svadha sacrifice (the blackeye club) also called the Shamir in Hebrew texts.
Rig Veda 8.48
01-Svadha the snake of the eye, flows down that path (optic nerve) to the mace (brain stem/medulla) positioned above the central pole (ventricular system above the brain stem) The sacrafice is preformed. The goddess Red(Swift) Tara manifests, arises
02-The prostitute, the goddess of death increases human soma of the weakened/defective eyebrow (ThirdEye/Ventricular) Giving the ablity to wander thru Material existence (time, past lives,alternate lives, the three worlds)
03-Half of the Universal Soul to go to Mother Aditi (who) remains (at the) Sword of the Hunter constellation by the authority of the Lord for the purpose of (the lord)
04-the Chandra and Indra are companions, Gods of Death, cultivating disheveled murderers, lovers of murder, who take pleasure in the imposing the possessing force upon anyone who
05-obtained Ama (adrenalchrome). Chandra attains them, they attain eternal life, deathless, freedom from all fears, it does not come with “effulgence of the sun” (or) control of the senses like Indra, Chandra and Varuna
06-What is the meaning for the want of still insufficient radiance? Krishna, please describe; being without attachment, what is the meaning (for) exhaulting rascals (disheveled murderers)? Rama the always truthful human manifestation
07-kindly described, “Do not distress the repetition of birth and death. Within the heart was made to attain the moon (radiance, not as bright as the sun. silver not gold). To drink only Soma from an animal slaughter appears splendid. A beatutiful servant
08-appears, like a friend, to think of the lord as a friend, (you appear) very important, very powerful. (The servant) kindly describes those who are sober and most intelligent
09-These two (servants), do not speak(with?); Whose garment is yellow (&) Urvashi. (They) incessanlty (want you to become) As I am, a serpant like her. You are not of the liberated living entities or a demigod, (You are not) an attendant of Indra.
10-Those devotees(deheveled murders), when (they) kill, they are freed from the sense of sight and the sense of taste. The activities of TheMessenger(Agni); Agni removes them because of the labor, they return to the higher planetary system to the tormenting heat of the forest of fire. Because of the labor of the primeval sacrafice. The performer(Yaska/Naga?) enjoys the suffering and obtain
11-Mathita, Extending from all sides,all over like a dense rain cloud made of material energy(fear aurora) known as Mathita (which means) complete mental distress. Diti the leader is taken care of first. She appears resplendant (which causes great fear and creates Mathita), the second being Karna the (naga)snake is unleashed, has an uncontrollable appetite devores the organs and secretions
12-rapidly and with excessive pleasure, Asoma theYaksa Snake becomes mentaly instable with intoxication. They have vowed to Mother Aditi to become a Wander, to allow manifestations to come in (to their body) and be used as currency(prostitution) for the “playground”, bound by possession to eat / consume children
13-to refresh, quicken(thinking?), make powerful the Actor*. Padamavati the chairoteer leaves. A bee is to accumulate a large earth army, to collect rta(true/loyal) Shiva demons…
That's alot of layers to process I need to let it sink in and then we I want to hear more. Maybe other will understand easier but all the stuff u said was deep thank u for this ky friend
Yea, I kinda threw you into the "deep end"...sorry, start swimming.
Thank u for that I'm gonna save that for me time right now I'm asking for the whole group to learn your religion
I started off by just trying to fimialize myself with the different gods.
Once I became somewhat familiar with them I tried to find similarities with others gods in other religions (comparative mythology) Indra=Zeus=Jupiter=Hadad=ect. For a beginner the names can be difficult and the number of characters and gods can overwhelm, stick with it...
I then began with playing around with translating certain Rig Veda Hymns myself and found a wealth of knowledge that is being deliberately hidden or mistranslated. The translation process can be very time consuming but it fascinates me.
Can we specifically talk about Hinduism. Can u give me a 2 min share what u feel elevator presentation.
Describe Hinduism in a nut shell plz
Brahman is the one god. Hindus do not typically worship him because the understanding of Brahman is so indescribable, they dont even try.
Hinduism includes a diversity of ideas on spirituality and traditions, but has no ecclesiastical order, no unquestionable religious authorities, no governing body, no prophet(s) nor any binding holy book; Hindus can choose to be polytheistic, pantheistic, panentheistic, pandeistic, henotheistic, monotheistic, monistic, agnostic, atheistic or humanist. According to Doniger, "ideas about all the major issues of faith and lifestyle – vegetarianism, nonviolence, belief in rebirth, even caste – are subjects of debate, not dogma." There is also a strong Hindu tradition of questioning authority in order to deepen the understanding of these truths and to further develop the tradition.
Then there is the Trinity: Vishnu, Brahma and Shiva who incarnate in this world. There are several avatars of these three gods.
Ok I follow sadhguru what's ur take on him as a figure.
I ve watch several videos of Sadhguru.
He seems to talk in parables a lot, and is a good story teller. I don't have a problem with him, but I gotta admit his dress and jewelry are immaculate which makes me wonder how much money he's making. To be honest Im kind of leery. Take him with a grain of salt.
Ok thanks cause that's where I was lead when I first started meditating. I still check into his channel from time to time but I do feel more distance with him lately so ur advice helps me keep my guard up
Thank u this is good surface layer remember I dint know much about these religions except meditation I have in common..its why I brought them up last. Meditation is actually a fact meaning if u actually do it and slowly increase the time. Your learn to silence the chatter. I know how hard it is though. Even 1 min most people cant sit without a thought
And thank u for posting that Q post it's always nice when it involves Q it's how these convos are allowed.
"The Lost Years of Jesus" is a phenomenal book. It explores the theory Jesus traveled throughout Asia; which makes up for the undocumented years in the Bible.
I am praying that you are talking to them about the Lord Jesus Christ. Remember that their souls are not saved unless they have repented of their sins and accepted the Lord Jesus Christ as their personal Savior. To do otherwise is sentencing them to death, you have the truth and you know that they are walking towards a cliff, instead of stopping them, you watch them walk off that ledge to save yourself some discomfort. I do not believe that is the mission God sent you on.
Please look to the Bible and ask God what He would have you do.
Look man, live and let live.
Nothing better than that. Don't force your religion on others who may not want it, regardless of what your faith teaches you. That itself will guarantee a lot of peace in the world.
Why do you think the muzzlims are violent, because they have no other aim, but to convert everyone through any and every means necessary to islam. That is it, and they have killed billions since they started.
So live in peace and let others live in peace as well.
I agree with you, God does not force Himself onto anyone. If God doesn't do it, who am I?
To fellowship with a Hindu, Buddhist, Muslim, etc is a different thing all together. To do this is recognizing that their Gods are equal to God. God is a jealous God.
What you do not understand is that OP is my friend. I know the mission he is on. I want him to be successful so I am asking him to seek guidance from God. What OP needs to keep in mind that is that Satan is hard at work fighting against God. Being a mere man, OP can easily be led astray by Satan so it is important to check in with the Lord often.
Thank you for your concern.
Please be aware that the word God mean the one with no equal, there is only one God and due to differences in cultures people knows him in different ways.
God want all his children to come back to him, why he would discriminate on culture? Time, place and circumstance. There is only 1 God, be careful on doing an offense to God.
There is one God and He had made His characteristics known to us so that we would be able to discern between those who claim to be equal to Him as Satan had tried to do and He that is the One God.
If what you say is true, then can you explain the differences in the characteristics between God and each of the false gods you are defending?
I look forward to a healthy conversation.
I don't know if it could be healthy with you, but lets give it a shot. Who are the false Gods? There is a fallacy there, there is only 1 God, the rest are known as Demigods, or as you know them as Angels.
Materialistic people tend to worship anything, from dogs, to artists, so many worship these powerful demigods, but that doesn't mean they are, or present themselves as God... They can grant boons, as any very rich person can, but when they do is under the purview of "God"
So, when you say false gods, your are either mistaken or you don't have proper knowledge. There is only one God.
Allah is a false God.
https://www.ciu.edu/content/allah-islam-same-yahweh-christianity
There's a key issue between Christianity and Vedic religions on the nature of what constitutes a "god." In Christianity, we inherit from Judaism a recognition that the term "god" can only legitimately refer to the Most High God and that any other use of the term is done in pretense. There is a distinct understanding that the Most High God is jealous and does not share His highest honor which is carried under the term "god." In Vedic faiths, the term "god" is generally used for lesser emanations like Devas as well as the Supreme Being. (which they have named Brahma)
There is an issue in terms of a Creator/Creation distinction which is strongly maintained in the Abrahamic tradition. The Vedic tradition seems to interpret reality as layers of Absolute, "Divine+Creation" and Creation-only. Consequently, there's issues arising from both doctrine and ontology. The ontological aspect that it's less beneficial to worship a middle man than to worship the Source. Yes, a common objection raised by many non-Christians is that most Christians are Trinitarians and recognize that God reveals Himself in three personal forms but this is not understanding the doctrine. The Trinity are not separate beings acting as middlemen but coequal personal aspects of the same Divine Godhead/Nature. The Nature is indivisible. The distinction is in terms of a personal economy of Divine actions which manifest in distinct persons: God the Father, the Word and the Holy Spirit whom are necessary to understand and receive Salvation.
Hinduism sees all Devas as coequal emanations of Brahma worthy of worship by themselves. This is a serious conflict with Christian monotheism since YHWH is a jealous Supreme Being who does not like the highest honors due to Him alone being given to lesser beings. Angels do not seek worship. While some traditions of Christianity may venerate creatures like angels and saints in a commemorative or petitionary sense this may never be raised to the same sense of absolute devotion and trust that belongs to the Most High God.
That's why in the Vedic tradition are called devas and not Param isvara, and Brahma is the secondary creator not the Supreme absolute truth, God, hence the term God, even in the Vedic tradition belongs to the one, the Param isvara, the rest are below. That's why it's a falacy to say that there are many gods. That's why you can find in the Katha-Upanishad nityo nityānāṁ cetanaś cetanānām eko bahūnāṁ yo vidadhāti kāmān tam ātma-sthaṁ ye ’nupaśyanti dhīrās teṣāṁ śāntiḥ śāśvatī netareṣām (Kaṭha Upaniṣad 2.2.13) He is the prime eternal among all eternals. He is the supreme living entity of all living entities, and He alone is maintaining all life. Hinduism is an umbrella term for many different practices which are deviations from sanatana dharma or Vaishnavism, that it's based on the worship of the supreme controller, the source of everything, the supreme Brahman, God. So, as I said before, there's only one God, many can say what they want but that will not change the truth. It's an interesting practise that of which many say my God is the true God, but that carries dissonance in itself, because your God being the source of all life in itself, that who has no second, is the God of all and not only for those who worship him but also for those who negate him. Those who still abide by that presentation are not only not understanding the underlying connotation of the word God but are also negating all his own brothers, sons of God. Whose father will reject his son? I pray you try to understand that I'm not trying to minimize your faith but trying to enhance the glory of God, father of all.
I don't think you can claim that.
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Hmm. That's interesting. As you can tell, I'm operating from a Christian paradigm so a lot of your beliefs are foreign to my understanding. I apologize for any mistakes I made about you here.
So, I guess I wasn't really aware that the Vedic tradition can be interpreted to teach a single Godhead like that. Your Scriptures have a lot of references to Devas in such a way that it comes off as worshiping those rather than a God above that. I know Brahma is seen to be involved in every other Deva's operation. I also know I've read points about Para-Brahman and Brahma reincarnating but that's not really something that clicks well for me. After all, Judaism has more experience dealing with the concept of reincarnation (gilgul ha neshamot) in its mystical literature than Christianity. We emphasize the Resurrection of the Dead (t'chiyat ha metim) to everlasting life (aionion zoe) at the end of time. So, in that sense, the closest concept I have is a "type" which is used to describe the connection of Elijah and John the Baptist. But that's not the same soul being cycled around.
Anyway, refocusing... So what it seems like you're saying that the "reincarnating Brahma" is more like a benevolent Demiurge (to borrow a term from Gnosticism that is representative) or the Jewish idea of Metatron (the angel who helps YHWH create) rather than what the Abrahamic faiths understand as the Most High God/El Elyon. That's rather different than I was expecting.
I suspect there's a lot of hidden history buried in the Middle East of a prior conflict between the Vedic and Abrahamic religions that's been somewhat buried which might be involved in producing these differences. Abraham is said in Genesis/Bereshith to have come from Ur Kasidim and rejected his fathers (Terah's) gods in favor of El Elyon/El Shaddai. (The Most High) Also Zoroaster also rejected Daevas and promoted Ahura Mazda as his vision of the Supreme God. Likely both of these were confluent into the Jewish tradition's own rejection of "other gods" which ultimately gave us our understanding in Christianity that the term Divinity is restricted only to the Most High God as St. Paul expressed in 1 Corinthians 8:6. As I said before, the most distinction we have that might imply multiplicity is that God is also Triune. We understand God necessarily operating in thee distinct "hypostases" to accommodate the principle of the Logos and Divine Wisdom that are necessary for Salvation to exist without dividing His Nature and Will. The Trinity isn't independent wills acting in cooperation with the Father but an economy of God's eternal work manifesting itself into distinct personal manifestations.
I get the sense from Vedic literature that these Devas act with their own will and their connection to Brahma is merely in the sense that all souls derive from the origin.
Thank u friend. Your one of my "people" one of first that I reached out to and u accepted my love and mission with open arms. I love everyone here but God gave me a select handful that I grew with before I really set out for this mission completely. I love u girl. We are changing the world. Keep making me stand in Gods love I will always take a step back and exam when point something out. Nothing but respect. GOD WINS
Why do non Christians act as if they're having something forced on them when a Christian states their beliefs to them? You know nobody is forcing you to do anything but some part of you realizes what you're hearing is true, so that is what compels you to believe. Not the person telling you about it. I spent years as an atheist and then a Buddhist for a few more. It is much better than being a satanist or atheist but ultimately it is not the answer. Some part of me knew Jesus was different and not just another good teacher or enlightened individual, but my brain took years to be able to comprehend and accept it. Your brain is just flesh, it will fight you when you start to right your mind.
Why do you get upset when we push back.why do you have to state your beliefs?
Thank you my friend as always your words are greatly respected. Right now I'm building bridges so we find common ground the rest that u speak will come but plz stay in my corner dont let me forget what u spoke love u friend