It's a real conversation that needs to be had. However most of the people who think they know the "full truth" about this are just going down along with another well manufactured narrative. If they can't convince you they don't exist, they will do everything they can to convince you that you figured them out and know how to challenge them. It's always a two way street with these people. On one hand they train normies like seals to completely shut down the second they hear about anything involving Jews and conspiracy. While on the other hand most of the people who think they have the "real truth" are laser focused on "Jews, Jews Jews" 24/7, immediately triggering that programming and causing the person to disregard whatever they say next. Most of these people get their info listening to some CIA or FBI plant pretending to be a truther making videos in his mom's basement. People who feed them bits of truth but imply heavily that the proper response is to become hateful and apathetic, tribalistic, etc. They push the exact sort of racism and eugenics the Dems want but say it's somehow special and different when they do it. If they get you to blindly hate all Jews you'll attack the good and neutral ones while they slip away into the shadows and change their names. You've got to think more than one or two layers deep with these things.