Not really the place to present evidence regarding election fraud, the election fraud is technically irrelevant to the subject of the impeachment. The 19th is when the fraud evidence will be presented in court.
The argument to that then is they got grounds to dismiss that evidence, when it's likely to be used in his currently ongoing cases surrounding voter fraud, which he is winning currently.
-trump claimed of election fraud
-MSM got mad and said anyone who claims election fraud is a liar and a racist
-trumps backers get mad and show up at a huge rally
-dems infiltrate the rally to stage a riot
-riot is really bad (so they say)
so why not just prove the election was false, and throw all evidence you got on the table, and doing so would show how MSM were the actual ones responsible for the riot?
Yep agreed. At this point, it has to be. Why would Trump suddenly lose all sense of what’s to be done or not? Even if the advice is bad, he can still choose by himself. Anyway, distraction too, I believe.
They will not bring up election fraud. They have already said their argument will take a few hours and not two days even though that is the time they were given.
I heard quite a while ago that they weren't going to present election fraud proof. I have to agree. The only win here is that it would be presented on TV...but it really doesn't get us anything in this case and can be presented in the upcoming court cases or in some other format) It will be more meaningful if it is decided by a court of some sort (military perhaps). I actually think it is pretty smart to counter the 2 days of lies, drama and repetition that the dems did for two days with just several hours of strong facts, evidence and counters to the crux of the impeachment -- incitement...and the 1st Amendment.
good point. I also realized that no one speaking is under oath. dems have been lying their butts off, so dems could say that Trump team was lying about election fraud anyway.
The problem with presenting election fraud evidence at the impeachment is that no one in the general public is watching it. As a result, it will be very easy for the media to either claim to discredit anything said there or just outright ignore it. And since most people won't bother to watch the original content, which even in it's shortened form will be around 8 hours (Trump's lawyer's arguments, versus the 16 hours they could have had), the general populace will still not bother to see the original content for themselves. There has to be a better venue for this, one that a lot more people will watch and one that the fake news media will not be able to control (something short enough that people will watch the original content for themselves, not what the fake news media will describe for them).
The peach mint isn't even about that. It's about the bullshit claim that Trump incited some half-assed "insurrection" where everyone went home after a half hour.
Not meaning to datefag but…what’s the next date to get our hopes up for? I need something to look forward to or I’ll get into a funk feeling like it’s all over.
Not really the place to present evidence regarding election fraud, the election fraud is technically irrelevant to the subject of the impeachment. The 19th is when the fraud evidence will be presented in court.
The Demoncrats opened the door by calling election fraud "The Big Lie". It seems like disproving the lie is relevant no?
that's what I thought. that it would be the opportunity to put it out there with everyone watching.
thinking about it, maybe want to play close to the vest till cases get to the Supremes.....I hate having to count on these clowns for justice.
The argument to that then is they got grounds to dismiss that evidence, when it's likely to be used in his currently ongoing cases surrounding voter fraud, which he is winning currently.
-trump claimed of election fraud -MSM got mad and said anyone who claims election fraud is a liar and a racist -trumps backers get mad and show up at a huge rally -dems infiltrate the rally to stage a riot -riot is really bad (so they say)
so why not just prove the election was false, and throw all evidence you got on the table, and doing so would show how MSM were the actual ones responsible for the riot?
I think it is the place because one article of impeachment is him claiming voter fraud. So it is a great opportunity to present it.
There is only 1 article of impeachment- incite insurrection.
Claiming voter fraud is not a high crime or a misdemeanour so can't be used as an article of impeachment
Why not BOTH; show election fraud evidence everywhere possible! We need to awaken the masses and do this by getting the word out.
New political party would be completely meaningless as long as Dominion controls the election results.
or is this just a distraction......
yeah, i think so. how many battles has trump overcome? but now he's getting bad advice? yeah, no. i dont believe it for a second
Yep agreed. At this point, it has to be. Why would Trump suddenly lose all sense of what’s to be done or not? Even if the advice is bad, he can still choose by himself. Anyway, distraction too, I believe.
They will not bring up election fraud. They have already said their argument will take a few hours and not two days even though that is the time they were given.
I heard quite a while ago that they weren't going to present election fraud proof. I have to agree. The only win here is that it would be presented on TV...but it really doesn't get us anything in this case and can be presented in the upcoming court cases or in some other format) It will be more meaningful if it is decided by a court of some sort (military perhaps). I actually think it is pretty smart to counter the 2 days of lies, drama and repetition that the dems did for two days with just several hours of strong facts, evidence and counters to the crux of the impeachment -- incitement...and the 1st Amendment.
good point. I also realized that no one speaking is under oath. dems have been lying their butts off, so dems could say that Trump team was lying about election fraud anyway.
You never know who will be in charge of disinformation for the day.
No outside coms. Just sit back and watch with your own eyes.
The problem with presenting election fraud evidence at the impeachment is that no one in the general public is watching it. As a result, it will be very easy for the media to either claim to discredit anything said there or just outright ignore it. And since most people won't bother to watch the original content, which even in it's shortened form will be around 8 hours (Trump's lawyer's arguments, versus the 16 hours they could have had), the general populace will still not bother to see the original content for themselves. There has to be a better venue for this, one that a lot more people will watch and one that the fake news media will not be able to control (something short enough that people will watch the original content for themselves, not what the fake news media will describe for them).
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The peach mint isn't even about that. It's about the bullshit claim that Trump incited some half-assed "insurrection" where everyone went home after a half hour.
Stop trying to predict what is going to happen or when.
Trump doesn't give a damn for the presidency of the US Corporation.
Not meaning to datefag but…what’s the next date to get our hopes up for? I need something to look forward to or I’ll get into a funk feeling like it’s all over.