MAYBE.... does anyone know what time he is scheduled to leave today or arrive back at ADW? You can listen to ATC live. I want to hear definitively that they aren’t using that callsign on the radio...
They use AF1 in open comms on the radio. Unless they have a reason not to. The typical reason they don’t use it is when they want to make the movement discrete. But his entire schedule was publicized prior, so it’s not that.
I’m currently an airline pilot for a major airline, and I was a pilot in the military for 12 years. I’ve flown cabinet members, and almost flew the VP one time (Biden) he ended up flying on the other jet. During routine stateside missions they use Air Force 1 callsign openly in the radio. All day. They CAN use only datalink for certain centers, but only a few centers have dedicated comms on CPDLC. Regardless, they typically don’t use it. Besides, tower and TRACON (approach and departure) controllers don’t have this capability. They CAN use UHF frequencies, which only military use, but the fact is that they just don’t in the continental US. ADS-B exchange and flight aware are really irrelevant to the discussion. My point is, there is nothing secretive or hidden about normal Presidential flights, especially domestically. I’ve heard AF1 used on normal ATC radio frequencies all
Over the world. The only time they don’t is when they have a reason for it.
MAYBE.... does anyone know what time he is scheduled to leave today or arrive back at ADW? You can listen to ATC live. I want to hear definitively that they aren’t using that callsign on the radio...
They use AF1 in open comms on the radio. Unless they have a reason not to. The typical reason they don’t use it is when they want to make the movement discrete. But his entire schedule was publicized prior, so it’s not that.
I’m currently an airline pilot for a major airline, and I was a pilot in the military for 12 years. I’ve flown cabinet members, and almost flew the VP one time (Biden) he ended up flying on the other jet. During routine stateside missions they use Air Force 1 callsign openly in the radio. All day. They CAN use only datalink for certain centers, but only a few centers have dedicated comms on CPDLC. Regardless, they typically don’t use it. Besides, tower and TRACON (approach and departure) controllers don’t have this capability. They CAN use UHF frequencies, which only military use, but the fact is that they just don’t in the continental US. ADS-B exchange and flight aware are really irrelevant to the discussion. My point is, there is nothing secretive or hidden about normal Presidential flights, especially domestically. I’ve heard AF1 used on normal ATC radio frequencies all Over the world. The only time they don’t is when they have a reason for it.
You mean, they don't reveal their plan to their enemies? What a shock!