They use AF1 in open comms on the radio. Unless they have a reason not to. The typical reason they don’t use it is when they want to make the movement discrete. But his entire schedule was publicized prior, so it’s not that.
I’m currently an airline pilot for a major airline, and I was a pilot in the military for 12 years. I’ve flown cabinet members, and almost flew the VP one time (Biden) he ended up flying on the other jet. During routine stateside missions they use Air Force 1 callsign openly in the radio. All day. They CAN use only datalink for certain centers, but only a few centers have dedicated comms on CPDLC. Regardless, they typically don’t use it. Besides, tower and TRACON (approach and departure) controllers don’t have this capability. They CAN use UHF frequencies, which only military use, but the fact is that they just don’t in the continental US. ADS-B exchange and flight aware are really irrelevant to the discussion. My point is, there is nothing secretive or hidden about normal Presidential flights, especially domestically. I’ve heard AF1 used on normal ATC radio frequencies all
Over the world. The only time they don’t is when they have a reason for it.
If you go and look for it, please tell me what you find. I’m really interested. Because if you can determine that they arrived on a different callsign, that carries a lot of weight.
Absolutely. And 10 times out of 10 you would hear Milwaukee Approach calling AIR FORCE 1 just like any other traffic. If they don’t, it’s for a reason. That’s why this is such a significance for me. It’s really odd that they wouldn’t in this case. They’ve used countless other call signs overseas to blend in, I’m not sure what the callsign would be if they were not using it. It could just be a November + tail number callsign, or a Reach callsign. I actually know a couple people that work in the 39th (Andrews AFB squadron that flies AF1 etc) ive really been wanting to call one of them and talk to them, but they couldn’t tell me anything even if they wanted to, and I would just look dumb asking.
They use AF1 in open comms on the radio. Unless they have a reason not to. The typical reason they don’t use it is when they want to make the movement discrete. But his entire schedule was publicized prior, so it’s not that.
I’m currently an airline pilot for a major airline, and I was a pilot in the military for 12 years. I’ve flown cabinet members, and almost flew the VP one time (Biden) he ended up flying on the other jet. During routine stateside missions they use Air Force 1 callsign openly in the radio. All day. They CAN use only datalink for certain centers, but only a few centers have dedicated comms on CPDLC. Regardless, they typically don’t use it. Besides, tower and TRACON (approach and departure) controllers don’t have this capability. They CAN use UHF frequencies, which only military use, but the fact is that they just don’t in the continental US. ADS-B exchange and flight aware are really irrelevant to the discussion. My point is, there is nothing secretive or hidden about normal Presidential flights, especially domestically. I’ve heard AF1 used on normal ATC radio frequencies all Over the world. The only time they don’t is when they have a reason for it.
If you go and look for it, please tell me what you find. I’m really interested. Because if you can determine that they arrived on a different callsign, that carries a lot of weight.
Absolutely. And 10 times out of 10 you would hear Milwaukee Approach calling AIR FORCE 1 just like any other traffic. If they don’t, it’s for a reason. That’s why this is such a significance for me. It’s really odd that they wouldn’t in this case. They’ve used countless other call signs overseas to blend in, I’m not sure what the callsign would be if they were not using it. It could just be a November + tail number callsign, or a Reach callsign. I actually know a couple people that work in the 39th (Andrews AFB squadron that flies AF1 etc) ive really been wanting to call one of them and talk to them, but they couldn’t tell me anything even if they wanted to, and I would just look dumb asking.