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Anyone able to vet Drs. Andrew Kaufman and Thomas Cowan?
posted 5 years ago by gr8fulp8riQt 5 years ago by gr8fulp8riQt +11 / -0

Just sent a video to my ex about how the covid19 virus has not been scientifically isolated and got a few discrediting videos in response...forgot about the counter punch!! Anyone have info on these guys??

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– hope4gaia 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

Dr Cowan wrote The Contagion Myth, which I've just read. Extremely good book! He has been an alternative doctor for years, has tons of credentials and has quoted all the research about diseases that were supposed to be contagious over the years and how they couldn't get anyone to catch them even if they put disgusting germy stuff in every orifice. It turns out that germs don't exist. Bacteria exist, but mostly disease is caused by the terrain - which Pasteur admitted on his deathbed after he'd milked his own germ theory for his whole life. So toxins cause weakness in the immune system and 5G is what sets off the immune system shitstorm. All the places that came down with heavy duty covid were also just drowned in 5G - Wuhan had the most 5G ever, that's why people were just dropping dead in the streets. Wuhan and N Italy also had extremely bad pollution in the air with a high level of pneumonia every year.

I recommend the book and Dr Cowan highly. Of course the medical community shoots him down, wouldn't want the truth to get out and stop selling drugs, would we now.

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– gr8fulp8riQt [S] 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

I'm all about it...I just keep a healthy dose of skepticism just to not feel foolish. The problem is we hit a brick wall when we try to get this sorta stuff out to the normies. You say 5G and are INSTANTLY scoffed at and shut down in their 'minds'. Thank you though, it rings true to me!

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– Jackie040864 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

Dr. Thomas Cowan's 'Contagion Myth' and Arthur Firstenberg's ' The Invisible Rainbow' go hand in hand. Excellent!

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– anon1138 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

How about the fact that the "vaccine" is not FDA approved and only holds emergency use authorization (EUA) status and it is still in an experimental phase. Your ex is a glorified guenni pig.

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– gr8fulp8riQt [S] 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Great point, she isn't into vaxx's though. I was mostly trying to show her how everything we based the lockdowns on started from what we think we know about viruses. If we're wrong on the virus, we're approaching this all wrong and masks and lockdowns are ridiculous. Which we know already.

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– bubble_bursts 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

I would much rather put the ball in her court:

  • Show research papers that tells you HCQ used in correct dosage is dangerous to the patients

  • Show that asymptomatic transmission actually occurs (main reason for masks and lockdowns)

  • Ask why places like India that were not able to do lockdowns and masks beyond a month or two fared much better

  • Show papers that prove that using masks constantly by the whole population actually contains the spread

  • Show research that analyses whether lockdowns are more harmful or less harmful overall than just letting the virus hit herd immunity

I try to focus on the fact that the lockdowns and masks are not coming from good science. Infact I start every conversation with "Dont you think the govt is being so unscientific about how they are handling the pandemic?" It throws a curveball to someone who is expecting to hear "There is no covid!"

When they get puzzled and ask "what do you mean?" then I can elaborate on on these points.

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– gr8fulp8riQt [S] 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

I agree! I went a bit out of protocol cuz I was in a hurry and found a video on the fly. I did respond with a request of showing me which labs were able to actually isolate the virus and show how it was done. I have also requested the same about masks previously, reminding her how virologists dress...and how, if the masks do what you think they're doing (stopping a deadly virus) then guess what!?..they have DEADLY VIRUS all over them!? Where's all the haz-mat bins to dispose of these deadly virus ridden masks?? Where's all the dead homeless people who have such excellent hygiene?? I do start my talks with, yes covid exists, but it is faar from what they are telling us. I keep it in the area of 'just consider the possibility...regardless of ANY speculation, we are being lied to by people with a track record of lying to us about very big issues'. It's undeniable, they've even admitted they've lied about stuff...bigly.

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– Slyver 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

All the information about Covid-19 is disinformation. It's impossible to know the truth about anything about it.

Having said that, there is a substantial amount of evidence that sars-cov-2 is a real virus and it has spread through the world causing sickness. I have done a great deal of (online) research on this topic and I have yet to see one credible piece of evidence that it doesn't exist and a great deal of evidence that it does. I am inclined to believe these statements of non-existence originated as disinformation. For example:

  • Contrary to the statements that people for some reason want to believe (without evidence), the CDC says specifically that it has been isolated.
  • Here is the DNA sequence for sars-cov-2.
  • Here is evidence for thousands of tests on it.
  • Here is a link to a database where sars-cov-2 variants from all over the world were submitted from independent tests that can be compared and studied.
  • Here is an early analysis of the virus that suggests it was designed in a lab.
  • Here is another analysis that suggests the reason it is so contagious is because its cell surface binding proteins were modeled after the same proteins used by the HIV virus. Something that is almost impossible to have happened naturally. This particular paper was forced to be retracted by the PTB, almost certainly to force people to not look deeper into this line of reasoning.

This small list is the tip of the iceberg of what is going on in sars-cov-2 investigations. Any damning evidence about the virus' origins, or machinations, like the vaccine and mask studies and data, are being suppressed. HOWEVER, they all support the idea that sars-cov-2 is a real virus.

If there exists any evidence to support the idea that the virus does not exist, I invite anyone to provide that. I have no feelings on the truth of this matter whatsoever except that I want to know what that truth is.

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– gr8fulp8riQt [S] 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Thanks fren, that's plenty of info to wade through! I feel very much the same...I JUST WANT THE TRUTH!!! It's extremely difficult trying to red pill when ya know they have loads of fake counter punches at the ready. Eventually, they have to...see it for themselves.

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