-My comment get deleted by the mods in the past.
-Here I am defending a mod.
-Profit ???
LOL shill callers like you are super funny. Where is the logic in this?
Yeah my comments get deleted by the mods because there were a conflict of interest and communication.
That doesn't mean I outright think this site is against my beliefs nor do I think that "OH MY GOD THEY DELETED MY COMMENT THEY ARE COMPROMISED!!!"
If anything, I sounds more like a sane human being than you. It seems like I still have the ability to disagree with a certain subject and have the humbleness to agree with something is right.
It's call having a discussion/argument, I don't blindly follow someone edicts but when the facts are right the facts are right...just because I disagree with the some people in the past doesn't mean I'm going to cancel them or call them a shill.
Do you see me calling people who support George News a shill? No, because they are not. I made my post, to highly recommend people to read Evspra sticky before commenting "this site is compromised" because the proofs are that good...and if you still disagree after reading the sticky you must got some hardcore proofs that George News is real. To which, we haven't seen anything from the "supporters" side...so it just hard-headed-ness.
I have verified it. It's damning (in terms of optics), however it's nowhere close to being decisive.
I'd appreciate it if it was a disclaimer and not an outright blacklist.
And yes, there have been several cases in the past from what I've seen of well meaning anons that have made that exact claim that have been banned. I fully expect this account to be banned at any moment. I don't give a crap. If, and if the mods were wrong, it means this disinformation campaign was successful. It's long term disinformation that the MSM uses to publish their stories. Any sacrifices in the meanwhile mean nothing.
Evspra's track record has absolutely nothing to due with the claims and evidence being presented. I'm aware of the whois, I'm also aware of the supposed bans. However, everything presented has been circumstantial. Against GN? Yes. Rock solid? Far from it. Even if GN was disinfo, the argument presented against it is way too weak.
I don't think that there's anything so far that refutes my point that this website itself is compromised and that fake narratives (datefagging) spews out of here all the time. It's probably by design, and all indicators point to the fact that it's being facilitated, but it's not like this website has gone really anywhere or done anything else unlike GN by keeping morale up even after Q drops have largely ended. Everything that's discussed on this website is done by anons, legitimate and bad actors alike. There will ALWAYS be bad actors on GAW.
With individual TG accounts, they're either disinfo or they're not. That's a heavy accusation to levy.
You heavily misunderstand the point I'm trying to make. Fine, GN is blatant. The rapid turnaround on it though is itself a red flag that (should the mod team really be compromised in actuality) has the potential to hijack and turn the website against legitimate public informants.
Case in point; why exactly does the cabal try to out their own? It's simple, it gives them an alibi to walk away scott-free.
The same has the potential to happen here too.
There were two primary sources Evspra's argument hinged on, and it was the webpage owner (paper.li) and the use of sourced documents and images from dvids. Just two. Where are the screencaps of the actual messages GAW anons sent? I'm curious. I've seen text confirmation, but not once have I been pointed in the direction of a video that depicts these questions being sent and deleted. Definitive accusations require definitive proof, not a narrative. This should be the standard, but instead we have the opposite.
This is almost the equivalent of saying that .win's site infrastructure is based off of Reddit, who currently exclusively favors promoting left-wing speech and was recently bought out by Chinese interests, and that by copying Reddit's structure .win is creating a similar echo chamber. That's a complete jump in logic.
Currently, GN serves as an aggregate the same way other sites like RCN does. Whether or not people find hope in it is pointless. Fine, GAW can restrict links to it, since they offer nothing. However, once precedent is set, people can use it as basis to do whatever afterwards, and this is a very poor precedent to create on such a short basis.
but it's not like this website has gone really anywhere or done anything else unlike GN by keeping morale up even after Q drops have largely ended.
Yes, we have. We've done a lot. Have you not being keeping up?
And "keeping up morale" through controlled opposition is like wiping your ass with shitty toilet paper but not realizing it. Once you do, you're fucked.
And having a Q discussions forum is very necessary, for sure. Have you researched how suspicious it is that 8ch rebooted as 8kun? There's a whole other rabbit hole on how one of the co-founders claims the site was jacked from him and tried to reboot his own version of the site as 9ch without the Q influence (it failed massively). Have you tried to trace that lead back? That site's being kept up out of necessity. Not out of the original owner's pocket. The Watkins have ties to Nishimura of 2ch and 4chan fame, and you can trace that line back to the government if you tried hard enough. I can't say the same for GAW. Do enlighten me. I already know about the connection to VOAT and that to date, that was the only "true" Q-approved forum apart from the imageboard.
A lot of the realizations users make on this forum are days, weeks, even months behind of what's already discussed on 8kun, which is already assaulted day after day by shills, and without the same heavy handed moderation to shut it down. What this site does is provide an easy gateway, and nothing else. It lowers the bar of entry, and reasonably so, which makes GAW even more of a prime target.
Understandably, Reddit-like forums are a very poor medium for engaging in similar nuanced debate due to the amount of karma ascribed to each posts (if you ended up on .win, chances are you left for similar reasons), so calling me out on my umpteenth account I've created to disregard karma is a moot and irrelevant point.
Common sense goes both ways, but it requires a brain to use first. Good rest of the evening, fren.
Check OP post history please. Nothing but deleted comments.
Op is ? shill. This attack is 100% coordinated. Check the front page. Check new. This clown has “decided” for us. Reg flags abound.
Let see here,
-My comment get deleted by the mods in the past. -Here I am defending a mod. -Profit ???
LOL shill callers like you are super funny. Where is the logic in this? Yeah my comments get deleted by the mods because there were a conflict of interest and communication. That doesn't mean I outright think this site is against my beliefs nor do I think that "OH MY GOD THEY DELETED MY COMMENT THEY ARE COMPROMISED!!!"
If anything, I sounds more like a sane human being than you. It seems like I still have the ability to disagree with a certain subject and have the humbleness to agree with something is right.
It's call having a discussion/argument, I don't blindly follow someone edicts but when the facts are right the facts are right...just because I disagree with the some people in the past doesn't mean I'm going to cancel them or call them a shill.
Do you see me calling people who support George News a shill? No, because they are not. I made my post, to highly recommend people to read Evspra sticky before commenting "this site is compromised" because the proofs are that good...and if you still disagree after reading the sticky you must got some hardcore proofs that George News is real. To which, we haven't seen anything from the "supporters" side...so it just hard-headed-ness.
I have verified it. It's damning (in terms of optics), however it's nowhere close to being decisive.
I'd appreciate it if it was a disclaimer and not an outright blacklist.
And yes, there have been several cases in the past from what I've seen of well meaning anons that have made that exact claim that have been banned. I fully expect this account to be banned at any moment. I don't give a crap. If, and if the mods were wrong, it means this disinformation campaign was successful. It's long term disinformation that the MSM uses to publish their stories. Any sacrifices in the meanwhile mean nothing.
Evspra's track record has absolutely nothing to due with the claims and evidence being presented. I'm aware of the whois, I'm also aware of the supposed bans. However, everything presented has been circumstantial. Against GN? Yes. Rock solid? Far from it. Even if GN was disinfo, the argument presented against it is way too weak.
I don't think that there's anything so far that refutes my point that this website itself is compromised and that fake narratives (datefagging) spews out of here all the time. It's probably by design, and all indicators point to the fact that it's being facilitated, but it's not like this website has gone really anywhere or done anything else unlike GN by keeping morale up even after Q drops have largely ended. Everything that's discussed on this website is done by anons, legitimate and bad actors alike. There will ALWAYS be bad actors on GAW.
With individual TG accounts, they're either disinfo or they're not. That's a heavy accusation to levy.
You heavily misunderstand the point I'm trying to make. Fine, GN is blatant. The rapid turnaround on it though is itself a red flag that (should the mod team really be compromised in actuality) has the potential to hijack and turn the website against legitimate public informants.
Case in point; why exactly does the cabal try to out their own? It's simple, it gives them an alibi to walk away scott-free.
The same has the potential to happen here too.
There were two primary sources Evspra's argument hinged on, and it was the webpage owner (paper.li) and the use of sourced documents and images from dvids. Just two. Where are the screencaps of the actual messages GAW anons sent? I'm curious. I've seen text confirmation, but not once have I been pointed in the direction of a video that depicts these questions being sent and deleted. Definitive accusations require definitive proof, not a narrative. This should be the standard, but instead we have the opposite.
This is almost the equivalent of saying that .win's site infrastructure is based off of Reddit, who currently exclusively favors promoting left-wing speech and was recently bought out by Chinese interests, and that by copying Reddit's structure .win is creating a similar echo chamber. That's a complete jump in logic.
Currently, GN serves as an aggregate the same way other sites like RCN does. Whether or not people find hope in it is pointless. Fine, GAW can restrict links to it, since they offer nothing. However, once precedent is set, people can use it as basis to do whatever afterwards, and this is a very poor precedent to create on such a short basis.
And having a Q discussions forum is very necessary, for sure. Have you researched how suspicious it is that 8ch rebooted as 8kun? There's a whole other rabbit hole on how one of the co-founders claims the site was jacked from him and tried to reboot his own version of the site as 9ch without the Q influence (it failed massively). Have you tried to trace that lead back? That site's being kept up out of necessity. Not out of the original owner's pocket. The Watkins have ties to Nishimura of 2ch and 4chan fame, and you can trace that line back to the government if you tried hard enough. I can't say the same for GAW. Do enlighten me. I already know about the connection to VOAT and that to date, that was the only "true" Q-approved forum apart from the imageboard.
A lot of the realizations users make on this forum are days, weeks, even months behind of what's already discussed on 8kun, which is already assaulted day after day by shills, and without the same heavy handed moderation to shut it down. What this site does is provide an easy gateway, and nothing else. It lowers the bar of entry, and reasonably so, which makes GAW even more of a prime target.
Understandably, Reddit-like forums are a very poor medium for engaging in similar nuanced debate due to the amount of karma ascribed to each posts (if you ended up on .win, chances are you left for similar reasons), so calling me out on my umpteenth account I've created to disregard karma is a moot and irrelevant point.
Common sense goes both ways, but it requires a brain to use first. Good rest of the evening, fren.