Hear me out first.
First off This isnt about the bans, or an Evspra discussion. I will admit i have a lot of time for evspra, but thats neither here nor there for this thread. Ill happily deport anyone who turns it into that btw, because OFF TOPIC.
No, my beef with Georgie has to do with what the website uses and considers its users. Im getting 25 cookies from their homepage alone, and it cant actually load on mobile now (i suspect their trackers are causing that too, they usually do). The usage of addthis guarantees what you do on george.news is known by google and others within 24 hours. There is no opt out. You either agree to be tracked or they will refuse service. You are theirs when you use george.
So what does this all mean? It means they can act all nice and sweet, claim they aint in it for the money. Then all the while they smile at you, they sell what you do and are interested in to the highest bidder. I should know, i helped design some of the tools for analysing the results.
Every word you type in a search bar anywhere is captured if these trackers are in place. Login to the site, they get your email as a validation and can apply the algorithmic data associated to it. This is then aggregated into audiences that advertiser spend on like an auction house. Your eyeballs can even be monitored through your camera to see what you look at. No one really realises just how often their activities alone are bought and sold every day. They collect all that data effectively for free and make a killing if it performs.
it's no longer about not asking for donations or selling tshirts.
George in this case is making a mint on being the only vector for targeting conservatives for data. They dont need your donations if they are taking from you what you throw away everyday online for free, and reselling it to people who hate you, and can use it to hurt you. Given the people buying said data want to put all trump supporters in re-education camps, ill take a hard pass at providing any forms of pii or time on screen to GN moving forwards.
but wait there's more!
GN supporters coming out of the woodwork here also have some comms tactics that im very familar with, from when i debated commies and actual right wing extremists. The collectivist loves using motte and baileys, strawmen and streams of tu quoque to demoralise targets. When that fails, they just revert to ad hominem. If they know they can't win, they go straight to the insults.
i also keep going back to q saying "HELLO GEORGE". I always thought it meant soros, but now... Not sure.
Some of the people as well... Does anyone remember the snow white saga? Someone couldnt have turned on a few of the dwarves again right?
tldr?
GN and its community is being watched by people you really don't want watching, and they are bulk trawling all they can on you. now if you are comfortable with the practice of you and what you do being resold to coke to make you less white by the power of diabetes, Pfizer to make you sterile/dead in the name of vaccination, and wayfair to find out how old your kid might be, on your head be it. Thats your choice to avcept that poyential risk.
I, for one, won't. NCSWIC, not even a sus site like George.
One thing that bothered me about them before all the stuff about them came up was something that happened in the last livestream I watched.
George said not to decode or read anything into their messages. This really rubbed be the wrong way because they are constantly posting cryptic crap. Like the stuff about the blue boxes and the keys. If you don't want ppl reading into and trying to decode your messages, then why are you posting cryptic messages in the first place?
That right there made me really suspicious of them, and then Evspra came out with all the information. And while I don't necessarily agree with the ban and thought it was premature, I understand where Evspra was coming from.
I just wish the whole situation was handled better by ALL involved. It could have become a real bonding experience for the board as a whole to do a board-wide research project into George News to get to the truth once and for all. I think that would have been more unifying and a much better way of handling things.
But I understand that MODS have a hard job and they are only human. Evspra is still my favorite mod and I really hope he/she comes back someday. I truly believe the whole thing was done out of a sense of protecting us from getting swindled by a potential charlatan.
100% he was coming from a good heart and caring about this community and he got nothing but crap for it.
I kind of feel like he fell on a grenade for us. He was trying to shut it down as fast as possible once he figured it out. Some people think and make connections faster than others and it makes their actions seem hasty. People couldn’t catch up to what he was doing, sacrificing really, and attacked him because they were slower adjusters and felt threatened.
Good intentions are prevailing here. We must have a little faith in each other. It’s foggy. Support each other. Allow each other some grace.
The last three G posts before all this went down really made me feel weird but I couldn’t conclusively say either way if it’s because they were illegitimate or what. Evspra did the dirty digging to get the tunnel started for us. Now the truth is getting exposed.
100% people needed george to be right no matter what even if it was a detriment to them in the long run. I love this community and I came from TDW after an 6th and I seen what was happening there after the 6th and I hope it doesn't happen here.