I've come up with a theory about angelic involvement in this Q stuff as I have pondered what I know of the Bible vs. what I know about Q.
I'm an evangelical non-charismatic Christian—a layperson with probably above average Bible knowledge. I totally know that these thoughts are not explicit Bible truths and am ready to drop it and would appreciate any correction you may have to my thinking here.
Theory:
Premise 1 – There are angels engaged in this war in this Q story.
Premise 2 – Significant part of the warfare is informational.
Conclusion:
We often think about angelic interaction with us to be physical (fighting battles and protection in physical danger) and spiritual (fighting demons and protection from spiritual danger).
Although we don't typically think about angels being involved in informational warfare, I think angels ARE involved in this Q story's info war component.
I think some influencers are angels. Similar to how I think there are demon-possessed influencers. I think the battlefield is much larger than what we are aware of--across the arts, entertainment, sciences, media, economy, politics, internets… Even here--I think the battle between literal angels and demons is occurring here on GreatAwakening.win via posts and comments. We'll be surprised when we find out people who we thought were people were actually angels.
We talk about Q being a psy-op. I think there is truth here. I think it is God's psy-op to redpill the world to:
- Show a glimpse of how truly evil is evil.
- Show a glimpse of how truly good is good.
- Show a glimpse of His power, His awesome intellect, His 'coolness', and, quite frankly, His badass-ness
- Give each person a more informed opportunity to decide whether or not to follow Him.
Some Bible references:
- Num 22-24 – Info war – Balaam
- 2 Kings 6:8-23 – Info war and army of angels and God's character. Side note: Latter part of this chapter is odd and abhorrent.
- Zeph 1 - God's character and example of God's judgment
- Hebrews 1 and 13 – Commonly known passages about angels.
Please don't infer that I'm purporting a specific view of eschatology or that I'm interpreting that the 'Day of the Lord' = the Q outcome. Neither am I meaning to purport a specific view of free will vs. election. I'm just trying to think: If God is behind this, what's going on here?
This thread is meant for evangelical Christian Q-supporters to engage in discussion on the thread topic (Of course, all are welcome to share their thoughts). Please keep it civil and no bashing others who may not hold similar beliefs and respond in such a way per the rules of GreatAwakening.win.
Interesting thought. If Gen 6:4's "sons of God" that marry the daughters of men is referring to fallen angels (as traditionally thought), then that could be the case. But if that were true, since all people post-flood are decedents of Noah, are you implying that Noah was a descendent of a angel-human relationship?
Biblically speaking, I don't believe that this viewpoint is true because that would mean that the lineage of Jesus involved angel-human blood. Genesis 3 makes distinction about Satan's seed vs. the woman's seed and God's promise that for the woman's seed to cause Satan's ultimate defeat. God is picky about the bloodline of Jesus Christ. Additionally, we read of Satan wanting to 'inject' the unintended blood into the bloodline (i.e. Abraham and Sarah going to Egypt, Isaac and Rebekah going to Egypt, God not killing David).
In summary, yes, I believe there were angel-human relationships producing offspring, but I don't believe mankind right now has that DNA since it died out in the flood.
My thought is that the initial 'corruption to DNA' occurred during the fall when sin entered the world and the 2nd law of thermodynamics.
Noah represented the last human blood line on earth. The flood was far more about saving Noah for a pure human line for Christ rather than destroying wicked people. The blood line is believed by many I've read to have passed through Ham's wife and continued the hybrid bloodline. It resulted in Nimrod who is described as becoming like one of the might men of old. And we certainly had Nephilim after the flood as evidenced by Goliath, Sihon and Og with their huge beds. Joshua and Caleb saw the Nephilim in the promised land and said we appeared as grasshoppers to them. There are many accounts and pictures of farmers finding giant skeletons as they plowed their fields, more indication of a genetic component that survived the flood. It says there were Nephilim on the earth and also afterwards as in after the flood. I simply take what this text is saying and look at the satanic people around me and know that the number of pedophiles out there are not due to bad upbringing or abuse. They are genetically wired that way.
Can you provide some reference (from others who believe the same) re: this hybrid blood line being passed through Ham's wife?
I'd be interested to know whether this belief is held by other evangelical Christians. This is not something I've heard of in my evangelical Christian circles.
I do recognize that there were giants and mutant giants in the Bible (a giant with 6 fingers). However, from that, I wouldn't infer that that means there are fallen-angel-human hybrids amongst us. I agree we are genetically wired to sin (that includes sick evil pedophilia), but that was through the fall. I believe evil people are either deceived or demon possessed or hybrid of both, but I don't believe in the hybrids that you're talking about. I don't think the 'fallen-angel-human hybrids existing today' is a Bible truth, but I respect your opinion and thank you for sharing.