No, not new and I'm well aware of the Watkins family, 8chan, Q posts, all that jazz.
However, I never entered the whole Q thing from that angle. I was always just a Trump supporter and somebody who watched him like a hawk.
Everything about the election told me it was a fraud, Trump's handling led to believe he has a plan in motion and something up his sleeve plus the relentless BS from the media and zero accountability regarding their own complicity in the whole thing (ex: televised vote flipping) cemented it. You didn't need CodeMonkeyZ or even Q posts to see that.
My heart would love to believe that Ron was going to deliver the MOABs but my head remains fixed. He made a lot of ruckus, delivered nothing damaging, decided to take a "step back" (coincidentally, this was right when many thought it's over) only to reappear on an HBO special. Just strikes me as a tad disingenuous.
You're welcome to bank on the man, I'm just saying I won't be, for the reasons mentioned.
Clever but you haven't caught me in some logical tautology. Gaslighting, really? C'mon, man! That's a cheap shot.
I don't praise the postman for delivering my mail and somehow think he's equal to the writer of the content within. Even if the postman claims, by his own measure that I can't quantify that the message is authentic.
The way I see it. The postman after election-night got a little bit vocal and said that he personally was going to drop the MOABs. Postman didn't deliver on that one.
And as I said before, you didn't need Ron nor Q posts to see that Nth level fuckery was afoot and that Trump is both wily and intelligent enough to be a step ahead. I'm not saying Ron is a bad guy but there's some big calls met with some big fizzles. That raises questions. If you have enough trust that you're willing to look past that, I'm not out to change your mind.
I mean much of the posts were specifically videos of ballots being smashed, removed, other shenanigans, and pointing out broken chain-of-custody in state election facilities - many of which are ongoing cases.
If your point is "I thought Ron over-hyped an outcome" then I would state that's a subjective burden you put on yourself. Ron doesn't seem to have postulated wildly or pontificated past "This is nuts" and doing his best to document information as it rapidly came across his beak. He repeatedly even steps backwards and retracts and clarifies things he perceived he over-stated several times.
I've been looking for Jim and Ron to be on some completely insane tip since this all started. Unfortunately they seem to be some of the few voices unabashedly pushing freedom of information, really, anywhere. Am I wrong in saying that?
I mean I linked to plenty of archives here. Please point out the spots specifically that you are referring to.
Mate, I don't know what the hell your problem is and why you're so aggressively evangelical about Ron but wish granted!
I've stated my points, I've been reasonable and made no assumptions about you or your thoughts. You have used every opportunity to bludgeon your opinion onto me and spin because I said X I really mean Y.
I don't want to get dragged into further discussion and play this game of tit-for-tat postings. Something tells me that even if I post information which directly confirms what I am referring to you'll still continue on down this path...
But you raised issue, so I would see it closed on the terms you specify as my repeated statement that if you wish to trust in him I am not here to convince otherwise is not apparently civil enough. You haven't seen it? Well, here it is, twice over.
He also referred to dropping the MOABs on Jan 6th on his site. A three part upload that was a whole lot of nothing that wasn't already out there. The tweets no longer exist because of him being purged. But good thing I have browser history...
No, not new and I'm well aware of the Watkins family, 8chan, Q posts, all that jazz.
However, I never entered the whole Q thing from that angle. I was always just a Trump supporter and somebody who watched him like a hawk.
Everything about the election told me it was a fraud, Trump's handling led to believe he has a plan in motion and something up his sleeve plus the relentless BS from the media and zero accountability regarding their own complicity in the whole thing (ex: televised vote flipping) cemented it. You didn't need CodeMonkeyZ or even Q posts to see that.
My heart would love to believe that Ron was going to deliver the MOABs but my head remains fixed. He made a lot of ruckus, delivered nothing damaging, decided to take a "step back" (coincidentally, this was right when many thought it's over) only to reappear on an HBO special. Just strikes me as a tad disingenuous.
You're welcome to bank on the man, I'm just saying I won't be, for the reasons mentioned.
Ron & Jim both delivered the medium that is the entire premise for you here making statements that they "deliverd nothing."
8chan and 8kun were the locations and sites that Q posted on.
This is a site dedicated to said Q content / ideas / etc.
You claming Ron did nothing is basically saying you have no reason for being here. It's absurd and gaslighting essentually.
Clever but you haven't caught me in some logical tautology. Gaslighting, really? C'mon, man! That's a cheap shot.
I don't praise the postman for delivering my mail and somehow think he's equal to the writer of the content within. Even if the postman claims, by his own measure that I can't quantify that the message is authentic.
The way I see it. The postman after election-night got a little bit vocal and said that he personally was going to drop the MOABs. Postman didn't deliver on that one.
And as I said before, you didn't need Ron nor Q posts to see that Nth level fuckery was afoot and that Trump is both wily and intelligent enough to be a step ahead. I'm not saying Ron is a bad guy but there's some big calls met with some big fizzles. That raises questions. If you have enough trust that you're willing to look past that, I'm not out to change your mind.
Gaslighting in that you are describing MOABs being emphasized and - never dropped.
What would have been a MOAB, to you, in this context?
What did Ron deliver?
Ron showed programmatic evidence of fuckery in the election outcomes and published API-based real-time feeds showing manipulation of votes.
We can itemize these points by Ron - one by one:
I'm looking for Ron specifically saying "MOAB" and anything past the hyperbole of "Holy shit tonight I have some insane info."
https://archive.ph/A81fh
I mean much of the posts were specifically videos of ballots being smashed, removed, other shenanigans, and pointing out broken chain-of-custody in state election facilities - many of which are ongoing cases.
If your point is "I thought Ron over-hyped an outcome" then I would state that's a subjective burden you put on yourself. Ron doesn't seem to have postulated wildly or pontificated past "This is nuts" and doing his best to document information as it rapidly came across his beak. He repeatedly even steps backwards and retracts and clarifies things he perceived he over-stated several times.
I've been looking for Jim and Ron to be on some completely insane tip since this all started. Unfortunately they seem to be some of the few voices unabashedly pushing freedom of information, really, anywhere. Am I wrong in saying that?
I mean I linked to plenty of archives here. Please point out the spots specifically that you are referring to.
Mate, I don't know what the hell your problem is and why you're so aggressively evangelical about Ron but wish granted!
I've stated my points, I've been reasonable and made no assumptions about you or your thoughts. You have used every opportunity to bludgeon your opinion onto me and spin because I said X I really mean Y.
I don't want to get dragged into further discussion and play this game of tit-for-tat postings. Something tells me that even if I post information which directly confirms what I am referring to you'll still continue on down this path...
But you raised issue, so I would see it closed on the terms you specify as my repeated statement that if you wish to trust in him I am not here to convince otherwise is not apparently civil enough. You haven't seen it? Well, here it is, twice over.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EoIIkVbXYAAP2AT.png
He also referred to dropping the MOABs on Jan 6th on his site. A three part upload that was a whole lot of nothing that wasn't already out there. The tweets no longer exist because of him being purged. But good thing I have browser history...
https://imgbox.com/uhsGMpep#
Straight from the horses mouth. In the Queen's English. Gaslighting, my ass. After this he vanished like a fart in the wind.