First Council of Nicaea, look it up. First Great Schism. Separating the Western Orthodox, (Catholic Church) and Eastern Orthodox (Greek Orthodoxy). The debate was on the trinity, and whether or not Christ Jesus' Divinity. Second schism was protestants and Catholics. I do not have to go through a bishop, a cardinal, or a pope to pray to my LORD. Jesus is my King, and the Holy Spirit is my intercessor. Do you even know why Martin Luther did what he did??? Look into pope Pious the 8th I believe it was... maybe the 10th. One of those pious pieces of work. He was in the process of building the basilica to what it is now, and ran the Vatican's coffers dry in the process. He then resorted to selling indulgences, which were lateral pieces of paper that would, "forgive" a person of thier sins... and not even thier real sins against The LORD, indulgences were originally meant only to forgive a person of a sin against the laws of the church! Because no man can forgive a sin against God. But you man can forgive man for sin against man. But these indulgences in particular were going to far, some were even reportedly said to have written on them, that even if the mother of jesus were alive in that day, and one were to rape her, that the indulgence bought, would forgive the person of even that sin.. which is complete and totally blasphemy. Luther, an Augustinian Monk, literally the most hardcore monkly order in europe. Was being continually asked to explain these indulgences to the populace, because they were so wild they didn't even make sense to the layperson as to how the church could be peddling these things... so even he, a learned scholar in the Word, was having a hard time explaining these things to people. And in his extreme frustration, nailed his 99 thesis to the door of the church. Out of his opposition for this. And rightfully so. And from there it lead him to the diet of worms, which he prevailed. And rightfully so. He didn't even mean to start the protestant revolution, it was just an side effect of the current situation, born out of the pope's love of money and flashy building projects that was driving your precious orthodoxy into paradoxical heresy. So, continue. Please. I can literally go on all day, and you know why? Because I know my history.
It most certainly was! I just wanted to warn you of new age enlightenment theories, because there is nothing new under the sun. Even quantum mechanics can be traced back to hebrew kabalistic mysticism. As above so below... the book of Ecclesiastes says a lot about it. But then again, I don't know anything about history or reading or the like... but yes, it was a very interesting argument. That is for sure. I do not believe in coincidences either. So I am curious to see how these words will affect the onlookers. But hey, I mean to do no harm, and if anything I said sounded mean, I do apologize for that. I am still learning how to be nice to people too. I spent a lot of time in my life filled with hatred. And come off passionately, and I believe it was passion driving the other side of the argument earlier too. It was good though!! Free speech is #1!!! And a value we should all hold dear to our hearts!
I bow to you oh knowledgeable one! I fold, because I will no longer continue to cast my pearls among swine. You are so much cooler than everyone who doesn't believe like you do!! All I asked is to reserve YOUR judgement. Notice I put YOUR in all caps... because your judgement, as well as any other human being's on the face of this planet, concerns me not. There is only 1 judgement that does. And it most certainly, is NOT yours.
First Council of Nicaea, look it up. First Great Schism. Separating the Western Orthodox, (Catholic Church) and Eastern Orthodox (Greek Orthodoxy). The debate was on the trinity, and whether or not Christ Jesus' Divinity. Second schism was protestants and Catholics. I do not have to go through a bishop, a cardinal, or a pope to pray to my LORD. Jesus is my King, and the Holy Spirit is my intercessor. Do you even know why Martin Luther did what he did??? Look into pope Pious the 8th I believe it was... maybe the 10th. One of those pious pieces of work. He was in the process of building the basilica to what it is now, and ran the Vatican's coffers dry in the process. He then resorted to selling indulgences, which were lateral pieces of paper that would, "forgive" a person of thier sins... and not even thier real sins against The LORD, indulgences were originally meant only to forgive a person of a sin against the laws of the church! Because no man can forgive a sin against God. But you man can forgive man for sin against man. But these indulgences in particular were going to far, some were even reportedly said to have written on them, that even if the mother of jesus were alive in that day, and one were to rape her, that the indulgence bought, would forgive the person of even that sin.. which is complete and totally blasphemy. Luther, an Augustinian Monk, literally the most hardcore monkly order in europe. Was being continually asked to explain these indulgences to the populace, because they were so wild they didn't even make sense to the layperson as to how the church could be peddling these things... so even he, a learned scholar in the Word, was having a hard time explaining these things to people. And in his extreme frustration, nailed his 99 thesis to the door of the church. Out of his opposition for this. And rightfully so. And from there it lead him to the diet of worms, which he prevailed. And rightfully so. He didn't even mean to start the protestant revolution, it was just an side effect of the current situation, born out of the pope's love of money and flashy building projects that was driving your precious orthodoxy into paradoxical heresy. So, continue. Please. I can literally go on all day, and you know why? Because I know my history.
You're right, I'm just a big dummy. I'm done arguing with you. It serves me no purpose to continue on with you.
To everyone who will read this,
I am really stupid, disregard very single thing I have said... I just made it all up.
Sorry. No can’t do, lol.
Pretty interesting discussion you guys had.
It most certainly was! I just wanted to warn you of new age enlightenment theories, because there is nothing new under the sun. Even quantum mechanics can be traced back to hebrew kabalistic mysticism. As above so below... the book of Ecclesiastes says a lot about it. But then again, I don't know anything about history or reading or the like... but yes, it was a very interesting argument. That is for sure. I do not believe in coincidences either. So I am curious to see how these words will affect the onlookers. But hey, I mean to do no harm, and if anything I said sounded mean, I do apologize for that. I am still learning how to be nice to people too. I spent a lot of time in my life filled with hatred. And come off passionately, and I believe it was passion driving the other side of the argument earlier too. It was good though!! Free speech is #1!!! And a value we should all hold dear to our hearts!
I bow to you oh knowledgeable one! I fold, because I will no longer continue to cast my pearls among swine. You are so much cooler than everyone who doesn't believe like you do!! All I asked is to reserve YOUR judgement. Notice I put YOUR in all caps... because your judgement, as well as any other human being's on the face of this planet, concerns me not. There is only 1 judgement that does. And it most certainly, is NOT yours.
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