100 million doses administered so far, it is likely there will be people that die after getting the vaccine by chance unrelated to the vaccine. Very unfortunate death, but let's think critically. I know many people who have been vaccinated and have only had minor side effects!
This post by the OP is not a stand-alone event. If it were, sure, your conclusion would be a reasonable one.
Combine that with typical suspicious or out right malicious government behaviour, the manner in which this vaccine was developed, the type of vaccine it is (mRNA), it doesn't paint a pretty picture.
Take for instance the fact that other similar mRNA attempted vaccines, for coronaviruses, have failed miserably. In one experiment on ferrets, all of the ferrets died upon re-infection of the virus (I would have to take a look back at this, but I believe that particular vaccine test was for the original SARS or MERS viruses). The reasoning behind this is believed to be that it effectively made the virus invisible to the ferret, and as such, its' body doesn't have an immune response to the virus, which then multiplies and has an accelerated/catastrophic effect on the host body. There's a technical name for this which escape me at the moment.
And if you want more data, for the Pfizer mRNA vaccine in specific, with actual human patients, here's a place to start. Middle age people in Israel, within the first 5-8 weeks of receiving the Pfizer vaccine, have a 260x greater mortality rate, from COVID, than the other people of the same age range during the same period of time and within Israel. This of course doesn't take into account any mid-to-long term effects the vaccine may have on the patients.
I don't know what the exact definition of a shill is, but I am a supporter of getting vaccinated. More broadly I am confused why Trump would allow his FDA to approve and put in place the infrastructure to distribute a dangerous vaccine.
Im also a little skeptical. The second article says "During the five-week vaccination process “0.05 percent, meaning 50 among 100,000, died.” Admittedly I still need to look through the primary re-analysis it is linking, but nevertheless... That would mean you would have expected around 50,000 deaths from vaccines assuming 100 mil does?
More broadly I am confused why Trump would allow his FDA to approve and put in place the infrastructure to distribute a dangerous vaccine.
Many of us are confused about why Trump helped rush and promote the vaccine. There's a few theories of why this is, but, it's a re-occurring topic of discussion on this forum.
The second article says "During the five-week vaccination process “0.05 percent, meaning 50 among 100,000, died
One of the articles isn't particularly well written. I suspect something was lost in translation. It took some time for me to wrap my head around it and verify for myself that the data/tables actually said what the article said it did. Do take the time to convince yourself.
I don't know what the exact definition of a shill is
As for shill, the second definition here (https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=shill ), doesn't quite capture what I mean. The term is used on this forum frequently, broadly to mean something like: You're not one of us. You're here to bog down or diminish the forum in some fashion. To confuse, distract, or, annoy.
I'll have to take a closer look. To be honest the primary source is also terribly written and formatted too haha. Someone should tell these guys if they ever want to be believed they need to look the part!
And I knew the definition of shill, I just meant I didnt know if being pro-vaccine automatically made me one. To be honest Ive been a long time lurker, but I am also a scientist and made my account specifically to engage in the scientific discussions on here. Some times I worry that people's engagement and distrust of government leads spirals into distrust of other aspects of society that may or may not warrant it. Personally, I don't have as much of a distrust of the scientific community and therefore the vaccine. Ive actually used the same technology used to make mRNA vaccines in lab experiments before (though my work was totally unrelated to the actual development of vaccines). I think there is a space for people who want to eliminate the corruption in our government but sees the development of a vaccine for a global pandemic as an achievement of regular people like us that benefits people like us.
100 million doses administered so far, it is likely there will be people that die after getting the vaccine by chance unrelated to the vaccine. Very unfortunate death, but let's think critically. I know many people who have been vaccinated and have only had minor side effects!
They lied to us about who got Covid. How do we know who actually got Vaccinated?
Skeptical of you. You seem like a shill. Either that, or, a newly red-pilled person who is still trusting the MSM too much.
There's a user on this forum who compiles and posts and updates a list of all of the COVID-19 vaccine adverse reactions, each week. (LoobintheToobin , https://greatawakening.win/p/12hkhinjJH/weekly-update-vaccinations/ )
This post by the OP is not a stand-alone event. If it were, sure, your conclusion would be a reasonable one.
Combine that with typical suspicious or out right malicious government behaviour, the manner in which this vaccine was developed, the type of vaccine it is (mRNA), it doesn't paint a pretty picture.
Take for instance the fact that other similar mRNA attempted vaccines, for coronaviruses, have failed miserably. In one experiment on ferrets, all of the ferrets died upon re-infection of the virus (I would have to take a look back at this, but I believe that particular vaccine test was for the original SARS or MERS viruses). The reasoning behind this is believed to be that it effectively made the virus invisible to the ferret, and as such, its' body doesn't have an immune response to the virus, which then multiplies and has an accelerated/catastrophic effect on the host body. There's a technical name for this which escape me at the moment.
And if you want more data, for the Pfizer mRNA vaccine in specific, with actual human patients, here's a place to start. Middle age people in Israel, within the first 5-8 weeks of receiving the Pfizer vaccine, have a 260x greater mortality rate, from COVID, than the other people of the same age range during the same period of time and within Israel. This of course doesn't take into account any mid-to-long term effects the vaccine may have on the patients.
See articles here.
https://greatawakening.win/p/12hkTmmPSd/preliminary-pfizer-vaccine-resul/
https://greatawakening.win/p/12hkYUaK1g/pfizers-vaccine-killed-about-40-/c/
I don't know what the exact definition of a shill is, but I am a supporter of getting vaccinated. More broadly I am confused why Trump would allow his FDA to approve and put in place the infrastructure to distribute a dangerous vaccine. Im also a little skeptical. The second article says "During the five-week vaccination process “0.05 percent, meaning 50 among 100,000, died.” Admittedly I still need to look through the primary re-analysis it is linking, but nevertheless... That would mean you would have expected around 50,000 deaths from vaccines assuming 100 mil does?
Many of us are confused about why Trump helped rush and promote the vaccine. There's a few theories of why this is, but, it's a re-occurring topic of discussion on this forum.
One of the articles isn't particularly well written. I suspect something was lost in translation. It took some time for me to wrap my head around it and verify for myself that the data/tables actually said what the article said it did. Do take the time to convince yourself.
As for shill, the second definition here (https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=shill ), doesn't quite capture what I mean. The term is used on this forum frequently, broadly to mean something like: You're not one of us. You're here to bog down or diminish the forum in some fashion. To confuse, distract, or, annoy.
I'll have to take a closer look. To be honest the primary source is also terribly written and formatted too haha. Someone should tell these guys if they ever want to be believed they need to look the part!
And I knew the definition of shill, I just meant I didnt know if being pro-vaccine automatically made me one. To be honest Ive been a long time lurker, but I am also a scientist and made my account specifically to engage in the scientific discussions on here. Some times I worry that people's engagement and distrust of government leads spirals into distrust of other aspects of society that may or may not warrant it. Personally, I don't have as much of a distrust of the scientific community and therefore the vaccine. Ive actually used the same technology used to make mRNA vaccines in lab experiments before (though my work was totally unrelated to the actual development of vaccines). I think there is a space for people who want to eliminate the corruption in our government but sees the development of a vaccine for a global pandemic as an achievement of regular people like us that benefits people like us.