Because Q is not just one person. Q is a part of the Intelligence Support Activity (USAISA) aka Cemetery Wind/Army of Northern Virginia/TF Orange. A group of around 800 strong INSCOM operators and booger eaters tasked with collecting actionable intelligence during or prior to missions by other US special operations forces, particularly other tier one special mission units including 1st SFOD-D (Delta) and DEVGRU (SEAL Team 6). It's a JSOC group stationed at Fort Belvior, Virginia.
You're thinking of NSA Q Division. And they're not remotely close to a JSOC unit. Nor do they work with any JSOC unit, not without being first worked thru the other 16 DOD Intel Agencies.
I was a member of the spec ops community as a Navy EOD member. I can assure you, the intel we get goes thru the Nasa's clearinghouse, but the Intel the various SOCOM/JSOC units get DOES NOT COME FROM NSA'S Q DIV ITSELF. It gets handed down to us thru whichever agency requested the intel partnered with whichever Branch's Special Operations Command has jisrisdiction over the operation. So, for example, let's say EOD gets word of an impending IED swarm attack in some area somewhere near where they're operating. They would turn in the Intel to the Navy's SOCOM. They, in turn, would hand it over to DOD. At this point, they would hand it over to NSA, who has more than likely already gathered it thru their own means, catalogue and cross reference the info thru their ever expanding, all seeing, all "knowing" database for any other hits outside the Navy's purview, and then collate it into a nice little "actionable" message that then goes back to DOD for further analysis, and then back to Navy's SOCOM for operation planning and action, which would include EOD b cause we handle the military's ordnance disposal needs for the JSOC community at large. Army EOD doesn't even do this. It's why Navy EOD trains so much with the SeALs, DevGru (SeAL Team 6), and SFO-D (Delta). We handle the bigger ordnance disposal or detonation needs for JSOC/SOCOM. What they, the NSA, actually gather on their own is, most of the time, illegal to act upon unless and/or until another agency comes across their own intel corroborating NSA's illegally gained inel and asks for guidance from DOD's Defense Intelligence Agency, the OVERALL GOVERNING INTEL AGENCY over all others. In a sense, Snowden is correct about his claims of NSA using illegal intel, but he stops very short of explaining the whole process and how it all works. This is why it usually takes months for any intel received to become "actionable" intel. And I suspect, part of the time it takes is because NSA can't be seen as an illegally operating entity outside the jusrisdiction of ANY government agency inside or outside the U.S.
Just knowing NSA is the tool implemented by Q as the intel aggregation site troubles me bacusee I've had experience in dealing with those Clowns. And yes, ALL intel agencies are Clowns. It doesn't matter if you he majority of them are "good." What matters is the people at the top controlling it all. And except for the words of Q, there's no evidence to show me that they're not part of the same Clown team running CIA. Which is very worrisome to me.
Nope. Not at all what I'm thinking of. I'm thinking of just what I said, the USAISA. Just because a lot of people are involved doesn't mean they know The Plan. The booger eaters gather intel and the operators (pipe hitters) carry out missions often based on that intel. Operators work on a need to know basis as do the booger eaters. That doesn't mean they know the overall plan.
Over 30,000 people worked in 10AC (Oakridge Facility) alone on the Manhattan Project. Only a very few at the top knew what they were working on. It's called compartmentalization. Separate groups of scientist/workers did their work on one particular task of the overall project. Almost none of them knew what the end product would be.
What sauce points in this direction? Or is this stuff you've heard personally?
I'm not knocking your theory, i've long believed its something similar to what you state.
I live close by and am very familiar with Fort Belvior. Used to go on base regularly.
I actually work in the shadow of GSA (Ft Belvior North) and I know several military and civilian personel who work in the complex. Nothing about Ft. Belvior or GSA gives me Q vibes though. All hard lib civilians lol
Because Q is not just one person. Q is a part of the Intelligence Support Activity (USAISA) aka Cemetery Wind/Army of Northern Virginia/TF Orange. A group of around 800 strong INSCOM operators and booger eaters tasked with collecting actionable intelligence during or prior to missions by other US special operations forces, particularly other tier one special mission units including 1st SFOD-D (Delta) and DEVGRU (SEAL Team 6). It's a JSOC group stationed at Fort Belvior, Virginia.
No. "More than 3, less than 10."
You're thinking of NSA Q Division. And they're not remotely close to a JSOC unit. Nor do they work with any JSOC unit, not without being first worked thru the other 16 DOD Intel Agencies.
I was a member of the spec ops community as a Navy EOD member. I can assure you, the intel we get goes thru the Nasa's clearinghouse, but the Intel the various SOCOM/JSOC units get DOES NOT COME FROM NSA'S Q DIV ITSELF. It gets handed down to us thru whichever agency requested the intel partnered with whichever Branch's Special Operations Command has jisrisdiction over the operation. So, for example, let's say EOD gets word of an impending IED swarm attack in some area somewhere near where they're operating. They would turn in the Intel to the Navy's SOCOM. They, in turn, would hand it over to DOD. At this point, they would hand it over to NSA, who has more than likely already gathered it thru their own means, catalogue and cross reference the info thru their ever expanding, all seeing, all "knowing" database for any other hits outside the Navy's purview, and then collate it into a nice little "actionable" message that then goes back to DOD for further analysis, and then back to Navy's SOCOM for operation planning and action, which would include EOD b cause we handle the military's ordnance disposal needs for the JSOC community at large. Army EOD doesn't even do this. It's why Navy EOD trains so much with the SeALs, DevGru (SeAL Team 6), and SFO-D (Delta). We handle the bigger ordnance disposal or detonation needs for JSOC/SOCOM. What they, the NSA, actually gather on their own is, most of the time, illegal to act upon unless and/or until another agency comes across their own intel corroborating NSA's illegally gained inel and asks for guidance from DOD's Defense Intelligence Agency, the OVERALL GOVERNING INTEL AGENCY over all others. In a sense, Snowden is correct about his claims of NSA using illegal intel, but he stops very short of explaining the whole process and how it all works. This is why it usually takes months for any intel received to become "actionable" intel. And I suspect, part of the time it takes is because NSA can't be seen as an illegally operating entity outside the jusrisdiction of ANY government agency inside or outside the U.S.
Just knowing NSA is the tool implemented by Q as the intel aggregation site troubles me bacusee I've had experience in dealing with those Clowns. And yes, ALL intel agencies are Clowns. It doesn't matter if you he majority of them are "good." What matters is the people at the top controlling it all. And except for the words of Q, there's no evidence to show me that they're not part of the same Clown team running CIA. Which is very worrisome to me.
Nope. Not at all what I'm thinking of. I'm thinking of just what I said, the USAISA. Just because a lot of people are involved doesn't mean they know The Plan. The booger eaters gather intel and the operators (pipe hitters) carry out missions often based on that intel. Operators work on a need to know basis as do the booger eaters. That doesn't mean they know the overall plan.
Over 30,000 people worked in 10AC (Oakridge Facility) alone on the Manhattan Project. Only a very few at the top knew what they were working on. It's called compartmentalization. Separate groups of scientist/workers did their work on one particular task of the overall project. Almost none of them knew what the end product would be.
What sauce points in this direction? Or is this stuff you've heard personally?
I'm not knocking your theory, i've long believed its something similar to what you state.
I live close by and am very familiar with Fort Belvior. Used to go on base regularly.
I actually work in the shadow of GSA (Ft Belvior North) and I know several military and civilian personel who work in the complex. Nothing about Ft. Belvior or GSA gives me Q vibes though. All hard lib civilians lol
Maj. Gen. Paul Vallely for one. But I have other reasons also.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_6eEWAja6w