According to the doctrine of my church, God, Christ and the Holy Ghost are separate beings. Many don’t believe we are Christians because we don’t adopt the Nicean Creed. I have no doubt many things within the Catholic and other churches, as well as the Bible, have been hijacked over the millennia by the one secret combination to rule them all. Interesting thought experiment: How much of ‘science’ and ‘history’ has been hijacked to promote a ‘religion of reason’? Reason and logic are good, the scientific process is good, but is it possible parts of these were twisted to serve a nefarious purpose? No doubt.
However, in the coming days and years I think what will be most important is whether one believes in and strives for goodness, decency, family, faith, hope and charity; or evil, degeneracy, disintegration, despair, and malevolence. Those who seek to live by the teachings of Christ, and those who rail against and persecute them.
I’m confident there will be plenty from both camps (Trinitarians and non-trinitarians) on the good side.
Totally agree with you that primary source material is always better and learning to read it, decipher it, for your own understanding is always better.
Never mind the time. At least you read it. Thumbs up!
Personally, I do not care whether or not people believed in the Trinity. Triads have been around for longer than that. And with the spread of the original message, chances are, when it comes into contact with other cultures, certain ideas will be mixed.
and thus claimed the apostles hid it as a secret doctrine transmitted to the bishops but not popularly preached to the people, because the people were too Judaic and not ready for it,
Interesting.
So, when I read Acts, Romans, Galatians, etc, I find it rather stunning that the more Judaic Christians had their own ways, whereas the world we are talking about was way more diverse. Bridging these two needed some guidance. But in general, the Judaic component was easily outgrown.
As I said: people believed all kinds of things, especially in Samaria. A hotbed of all kinds of wild speculative theories. Or Greece for that matter. Let alone in Marseille and Lyon and further up north in Gaelic country.
So, I think that reasoning is post hoc justification. At least it sounds like it.
But I do think politics has had a huge influence in the progression of the IDEA of trinity in Christianity as a whole, especially when you want to incorporate the more learned part of society in one system of faith.
It happened before, and right now, the cabal is at it again.
Are you familiar with the Gnostic teachings of Christianity?
According to the doctrine of my church, God, Christ and the Holy Ghost are separate beings. Many don’t believe we are Christians because we don’t adopt the Nicean Creed. I have no doubt many things within the Catholic and other churches, as well as the Bible, have been hijacked over the millennia by the one secret combination to rule them all. Interesting thought experiment: How much of ‘science’ and ‘history’ has been hijacked to promote a ‘religion of reason’? Reason and logic are good, the scientific process is good, but is it possible parts of these were twisted to serve a nefarious purpose? No doubt.
However, in the coming days and years I think what will be most important is whether one believes in and strives for goodness, decency, family, faith, hope and charity; or evil, degeneracy, disintegration, despair, and malevolence. Those who seek to live by the teachings of Christ, and those who rail against and persecute them.
I’m confident there will be plenty from both camps (Trinitarians and non-trinitarians) on the good side.
interesting you should say that, as this presentation addresses the issues with your argument.
I agree with Burt_Williams to point to an interesting interference by politics to push a certain view.
Totally agree with you that primary source material is always better and learning to read it, decipher it, for your own understanding is always better.
Never mind the time. At least you read it. Thumbs up!
Personally, I do not care whether or not people believed in the Trinity. Triads have been around for longer than that. And with the spread of the original message, chances are, when it comes into contact with other cultures, certain ideas will be mixed.
Interesting.
So, when I read Acts, Romans, Galatians, etc, I find it rather stunning that the more Judaic Christians had their own ways, whereas the world we are talking about was way more diverse. Bridging these two needed some guidance. But in general, the Judaic component was easily outgrown.
As I said: people believed all kinds of things, especially in Samaria. A hotbed of all kinds of wild speculative theories. Or Greece for that matter. Let alone in Marseille and Lyon and further up north in Gaelic country.
So, I think that reasoning is post hoc justification. At least it sounds like it.
But I do think politics has had a huge influence in the progression of the IDEA of trinity in Christianity as a whole, especially when you want to incorporate the more learned part of society in one system of faith.
It happened before, and right now, the cabal is at it again.