True, you never know. There are some things to consider, parallel or outside your post. Among them is that the truckers already are set to cut cities off. As to LE and the idea of pols being able to take guns, around here the LE has been told (actually, pretty much throughout MO) that if they plan on being LE when TSHTF, they will be shot on sight. In the local agencies, most are carrying civvies with them, because they are on our side. I know of only two in a 50 mile radius who will attempt to enforce.
The words have been spread here that if you belong to a city, Kansas City, Springfield, St Louis, you better stay there and not try to come outside. While it may sound a bit wild west, I have no choice but to warn the creeps off with a couple over-their-heads shots. They're generally chickenshit; they don't know where the shots originate (just about everyone here has a can of one sort or another) but they hear the bullet path. All the people I know locally (25 mile radius) are capable of 500 yard shots, and most outfitted years ago. Also, most are woodsmen and can hide; most will, and any army coming through would suffer badly. We also have a substantial number who are capable with 'field expedient' types of things. In other words, the entire state is locked, excepting the liberal cities.
Some of my group were Nam vets, myself included, and are quite familiar with tactics going well beyond the current 'asymmetric' stuff. We also know that the VC took a very bad hit during Tet 68, when they were inducted into the NVA push. Afterwards, VC were no longer considered viable, and those of us involved in the now have done instructions on exactly that. Your ref to hit and run is good; a sniper or two doing that can effectively control a large area, allowing other tactics to unfold. Some of us have studied the military for decades, including the art of war stuff; we have generally concluded that knowing Tsu is a good thing, since the enemy will be using it, and we can predict their tactics.
Anyway, this is a situ in which Yamamoto's statement is accurate. There WILL be a rifle behind every blade of grass, and no force internal or external will be able to subdue that in the final analysis.
Yeah. Well you guys had that whole McClosky's thing. I'm west Kansas. The only real problem we have out here is the major university towns and Wichita. Even then Wichita is more level headed about it's liberalism. Most people there are logistics and/or manufacturing workers. Everyone there hates having to work 40+ hours a week and then handing it over to the government who then doesn't put it to good use. Generally the younger the person the more liberal they are and they all congregate in the major college towns. Not always but usually. It's just ranches out here. Guns are a tool for us. Out west here we get mountain lions from Colorado sometimes. Coyotes, rapid dogs and then there's small game and stuff. Gun control to us is like telling us we have to put a house frame together but you can't use a hammer or drill to do it. How easy do you think it is to put down a mountain lion with a 22lr you know? Shit. Even the most mild mannered pensioner in the city at least has a pellet gun to stop the birds and rabbits from fucking up her yard. I've seen a mother fucker chase a raccoon with a sling shot. That's just stupid liberals are on some childish Land of the Lost/ Legend of Zelda/Home Alone shit thinking they can stop a mountian lion with a sling shot.
St Louis is a liberal haven. So is KC and likewise Springfield. There's a big area in between, and we value our guns. I think Art I Section 23 MO constitution is affirmation of 2A, and we have the full Castle - out to property lines, stand your ground, and all that. We use it out here. Probably at least half the people I see in town are carrying, open or concealed. No concealed permits now, and local govt cannot override state law. Every one of my neighbors, rancher or otherwise, carries. Personally, I never leave home without, and walking around my property, I usually carry my AR-15. It's scary, ya know :)
BTW, we have a lion roaming around the area killing sheep.
True, you never know. There are some things to consider, parallel or outside your post. Among them is that the truckers already are set to cut cities off. As to LE and the idea of pols being able to take guns, around here the LE has been told (actually, pretty much throughout MO) that if they plan on being LE when TSHTF, they will be shot on sight. In the local agencies, most are carrying civvies with them, because they are on our side. I know of only two in a 50 mile radius who will attempt to enforce.
The words have been spread here that if you belong to a city, Kansas City, Springfield, St Louis, you better stay there and not try to come outside. While it may sound a bit wild west, I have no choice but to warn the creeps off with a couple over-their-heads shots. They're generally chickenshit; they don't know where the shots originate (just about everyone here has a can of one sort or another) but they hear the bullet path. All the people I know locally (25 mile radius) are capable of 500 yard shots, and most outfitted years ago. Also, most are woodsmen and can hide; most will, and any army coming through would suffer badly. We also have a substantial number who are capable with 'field expedient' types of things. In other words, the entire state is locked, excepting the liberal cities.
Some of my group were Nam vets, myself included, and are quite familiar with tactics going well beyond the current 'asymmetric' stuff. We also know that the VC took a very bad hit during Tet 68, when they were inducted into the NVA push. Afterwards, VC were no longer considered viable, and those of us involved in the now have done instructions on exactly that. Your ref to hit and run is good; a sniper or two doing that can effectively control a large area, allowing other tactics to unfold. Some of us have studied the military for decades, including the art of war stuff; we have generally concluded that knowing Tsu is a good thing, since the enemy will be using it, and we can predict their tactics.
Anyway, this is a situ in which Yamamoto's statement is accurate. There WILL be a rifle behind every blade of grass, and no force internal or external will be able to subdue that in the final analysis.
Yeah. Well you guys had that whole McClosky's thing. I'm west Kansas. The only real problem we have out here is the major university towns and Wichita. Even then Wichita is more level headed about it's liberalism. Most people there are logistics and/or manufacturing workers. Everyone there hates having to work 40+ hours a week and then handing it over to the government who then doesn't put it to good use. Generally the younger the person the more liberal they are and they all congregate in the major college towns. Not always but usually. It's just ranches out here. Guns are a tool for us. Out west here we get mountain lions from Colorado sometimes. Coyotes, rapid dogs and then there's small game and stuff. Gun control to us is like telling us we have to put a house frame together but you can't use a hammer or drill to do it. How easy do you think it is to put down a mountain lion with a 22lr you know? Shit. Even the most mild mannered pensioner in the city at least has a pellet gun to stop the birds and rabbits from fucking up her yard. I've seen a mother fucker chase a raccoon with a sling shot. That's just stupid liberals are on some childish Land of the Lost/ Legend of Zelda/Home Alone shit thinking they can stop a mountian lion with a sling shot.
St Louis is a liberal haven. So is KC and likewise Springfield. There's a big area in between, and we value our guns. I think Art I Section 23 MO constitution is affirmation of 2A, and we have the full Castle - out to property lines, stand your ground, and all that. We use it out here. Probably at least half the people I see in town are carrying, open or concealed. No concealed permits now, and local govt cannot override state law. Every one of my neighbors, rancher or otherwise, carries. Personally, I never leave home without, and walking around my property, I usually carry my AR-15. It's scary, ya know :) BTW, we have a lion roaming around the area killing sheep.