The real problem here is these people are never going to stop because of what we say. We are France in the 1930s trying to placate Germany with words and treaties. They aren't going to listen to words. They only see might. The moment they view us as week enough they will attack. Everything else is designed to weaken us slowly but surely until they can take over... with violence.
Fight we can't win? If every red blooded American male age 16-50 banded together there would probibly be 20-40 million of us, and we are armed to the fucking teeth. Fight we can't win? The US military(which is barely 1 million strong) would fall in a matter days when faces with that sort of firepower. That's assuming half of them don't flip sides or simply walk away.
Your starting premise is utterly false. WE HAVE THE POWER. We just don't have to will to use it yet. The only thing that is required is for us all to act as one. Have you ever seen a lion get the shit kicked out of it by a herd of buffalo? I have. A whole pride of lions isn't shit when compared to 500 buffalo, but only if they all work together and go all in.
All we have to do is just collectively say NO MORE, and they would be defeated before the first bullet was fired.
I've written about this before and you're right... yet you're also wrong. When you're dealing with that many people no amount of organizing can prevent a breakdown of every key factor in winning a real war. The 2-5k people guarding an airbase like say Robbins in south GA could never ever possibly withstand the onslaught of 300k civilians simply flooding the area in say 24 hours. The base would be overrun in a matter of hours. You have any idea how deadly south GA rednecks are? 80% of them deer hunt regularly.
Sure you have tons of armor and troops just 1-200 miles away in Savannah, GA. They have to get there though. Through a swamp... filled with snipers. That's assuming they don't just park dozens of bulldozers and big rigs across the road at a river/bridge on I-16 and actually put up a real fight. Just a 24 hour delay and poof air support is gone because Robbins is already overrun and those fancy planes are burned wrecks on the runway. The fuel is gone. Hell now they have NUKES. Seriously the civilians now have nuclear bombs that they took from the B-52 air-wing.
That same scenario can be played out 30 times at other sets of bases. EVERYTHING works completely differently when you are literally fighting people within your own midst. There is no "front line". There are no supply lines. The military won't get replacement tanks. The guy that welded their tank together is the one shooting at them. There won't be replacement fuel. The dock workers and oil refinery workers are shooting at the military. The guy growing the corn and raising the chickens to make his MREs... yep he's shooting at them too.
Yeah, sure the military has stocks of ammo and fuel etc. How long you think that will last when half of it will be stolen or destroyed in the first few weeks. The US military has roughly a million combat troops. Even if you had zero casualties early on and used planes, artillery etc to kill tons of people lets say 5 million civilians. Now you're out of bombs, you're out of artillery ammo, you're out of fuel for the tanks etc etc... so now its 15-20 million REALLY pissed off civilians vs one million soldiers with battle rifles.
If you think being better organized is going to win a fight where its 20 vs 1 you've never been in combat. The US military wins fights with LOW casualty rates entirely because they use (some would say over use) air-power and artillery. If you remove those entirely from the equations at BEST one soldier is worth 2-3 civilians. None of this accounts for the tens of thousands of vets that are just as well trained. 15 vs 1? Nope they will get their ass kicked. The only question is how many people they kill in the process.
The only way the military wins is if they preemptively organize and attack the civilian population from surprise and are willing to slaughter MILLIONS of people in cold blood. I think we both know that isn't going to happen. Officer might try to order that but rank and file troops would frag the officers giving those orders. The reverse however is VERY possible. A sudden uprising triggered by an event that causes tens of thousands of civilians to overthrow the government. The moment the police or military fired on civilians word would spread like wildfire. Then it is no longer 200k its 30 million. Que above scenarios.
Here is the REAL truth. The mid level military officers... the Captains and Majors... they aren't stupid. They know they can't fight millions of armed US civilians. When the cabal owned generals tell them... Major turn that artillery to the north and hit grid XYZ. Kill that group of 10k civilians gathering to attack blah blah. That Major will laugh in his face. Then when that general pushes the point and threatens summary execution or court marshal etc... that major will draw his side arm and shoot the general for the traitor he is.
Why? Because its an illegal order. More importantly if he has half a brain he understand everything I've just laid out here. They can't win fighting their own civilian population on their own native soil. Thus its suicide to ever even start the fight. He's better off siding with the civilians. If half the military flips sides like this then its beyond unwinnable. Its 500k soldiers vs 500k soldiers with 20 million civilians backing them up.
Bottom line... if 20+ million civilians with nothing but ARs can't win then why are they so desperate to disarm us??? Because they know the truth. Taking on that massive a force is impossible unless they want to use nerve gas on them or nuke them.
Not trying to hope, but Realistically, the US military - historys most powerful organized force - haslost every war against disorganized random civilians it has ever been involved in.
Organized numbers just make it more decisive, but numbers always win.
The real problem here is these people are never going to stop because of what we say. We are France in the 1930s trying to placate Germany with words and treaties. They aren't going to listen to words. They only see might. The moment they view us as week enough they will attack. Everything else is designed to weaken us slowly but surely until they can take over... with violence.
Fight we can't win? If every red blooded American male age 16-50 banded together there would probibly be 20-40 million of us, and we are armed to the fucking teeth. Fight we can't win? The US military(which is barely 1 million strong) would fall in a matter days when faces with that sort of firepower. That's assuming half of them don't flip sides or simply walk away.
Your starting premise is utterly false. WE HAVE THE POWER. We just don't have to will to use it yet. The only thing that is required is for us all to act as one. Have you ever seen a lion get the shit kicked out of it by a herd of buffalo? I have. A whole pride of lions isn't shit when compared to 500 buffalo, but only if they all work together and go all in.
All we have to do is just collectively say NO MORE, and they would be defeated before the first bullet was fired.
I've written about this before and you're right... yet you're also wrong. When you're dealing with that many people no amount of organizing can prevent a breakdown of every key factor in winning a real war. The 2-5k people guarding an airbase like say Robbins in south GA could never ever possibly withstand the onslaught of 300k civilians simply flooding the area in say 24 hours. The base would be overrun in a matter of hours. You have any idea how deadly south GA rednecks are? 80% of them deer hunt regularly.
Sure you have tons of armor and troops just 1-200 miles away in Savannah, GA. They have to get there though. Through a swamp... filled with snipers. That's assuming they don't just park dozens of bulldozers and big rigs across the road at a river/bridge on I-16 and actually put up a real fight. Just a 24 hour delay and poof air support is gone because Robbins is already overrun and those fancy planes are burned wrecks on the runway. The fuel is gone. Hell now they have NUKES. Seriously the civilians now have nuclear bombs that they took from the B-52 air-wing.
That same scenario can be played out 30 times at other sets of bases. EVERYTHING works completely differently when you are literally fighting people within your own midst. There is no "front line". There are no supply lines. The military won't get replacement tanks. The guy that welded their tank together is the one shooting at them. There won't be replacement fuel. The dock workers and oil refinery workers are shooting at the military. The guy growing the corn and raising the chickens to make his MREs... yep he's shooting at them too.
Yeah, sure the military has stocks of ammo and fuel etc. How long you think that will last when half of it will be stolen or destroyed in the first few weeks. The US military has roughly a million combat troops. Even if you had zero casualties early on and used planes, artillery etc to kill tons of people lets say 5 million civilians. Now you're out of bombs, you're out of artillery ammo, you're out of fuel for the tanks etc etc... so now its 15-20 million REALLY pissed off civilians vs one million soldiers with battle rifles.
If you think being better organized is going to win a fight where its 20 vs 1 you've never been in combat. The US military wins fights with LOW casualty rates entirely because they use (some would say over use) air-power and artillery. If you remove those entirely from the equations at BEST one soldier is worth 2-3 civilians. None of this accounts for the tens of thousands of vets that are just as well trained. 15 vs 1? Nope they will get their ass kicked. The only question is how many people they kill in the process.
The only way the military wins is if they preemptively organize and attack the civilian population from surprise and are willing to slaughter MILLIONS of people in cold blood. I think we both know that isn't going to happen. Officer might try to order that but rank and file troops would frag the officers giving those orders. The reverse however is VERY possible. A sudden uprising triggered by an event that causes tens of thousands of civilians to overthrow the government. The moment the police or military fired on civilians word would spread like wildfire. Then it is no longer 200k its 30 million. Que above scenarios.
Here is the REAL truth. The mid level military officers... the Captains and Majors... they aren't stupid. They know they can't fight millions of armed US civilians. When the cabal owned generals tell them... Major turn that artillery to the north and hit grid XYZ. Kill that group of 10k civilians gathering to attack blah blah. That Major will laugh in his face. Then when that general pushes the point and threatens summary execution or court marshal etc... that major will draw his side arm and shoot the general for the traitor he is.
Why? Because its an illegal order. More importantly if he has half a brain he understand everything I've just laid out here. They can't win fighting their own civilian population on their own native soil. Thus its suicide to ever even start the fight. He's better off siding with the civilians. If half the military flips sides like this then its beyond unwinnable. Its 500k soldiers vs 500k soldiers with 20 million civilians backing them up.
Bottom line... if 20+ million civilians with nothing but ARs can't win then why are they so desperate to disarm us??? Because they know the truth. Taking on that massive a force is impossible unless they want to use nerve gas on them or nuke them.
The odds are always in favor of the greater number
Even when totally disorganized
Not trying to hope, but Realistically, the US military - historys most powerful organized force - haslost every war against disorganized random civilians it has ever been involved in.
Organized numbers just make it more decisive, but numbers always win.