What the hell is going on with the Catholic Church? The Pope Ain't the Pope. Seriously, if they clean house I'm going back to church.
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The Catholic church has been polluted completely. Even if you take away the gateway to hell they call the Vatican. The doctrines are corrupt and will not lead to salvation.
Sadly the Roman catholic church h is a control tool for Satan.
Oh damn I'm using that one
Why are there so many downvoting shills in here? This isn't even an inappropriate discussion or anything.
The money changers were corrupt beyond what you are talking about. Selling a t-shirt or asking for money isn't what the money changers did in the temple. They controlled the animals you could bring in for sacrifice, they turned the area meant for gentiles into the area where they did their dirty business and forced people to give them money to be forgiven. There is more that I've learned about recently, but it's not the same.
Don't mistake me. There are gigantic problems with the church right now. The church taking in money from non corrupt practices isn't a problem, what the church does with that money would be an issue specific to that church and not representative of all churches. I wish the ratio was better, but sadly I feel it's getting worse.
BTW the people who supposedly represent him? Kind of a blanket statement there. There are plenty of people that represent Jesus how they should that aren't financially corrupt. Besides, every Christian is supposed to be a representative of Jesus. It's in the text. We are meant to all spread the good word and bring people into the kingdom. I know it's frustrating seeing how the church leadership is failing, but it's not all of them.
You know what, I wasn't even really thinking about the catholic church in my post. Sadly I just realized why. I've already forsaken catholicism to the point I don't even consider them in the same category. I would put the catholic church below Mormons at this point because of how corrupt their doctrines are. I already consider the Vatican to be the seat of the false prophet that rises with the antichrist.
Yes, and unfortunately the "protestant" church is headed that way now.
The protestant churches are, mostly, corporate churches now. The ecumenical movement (a RCC thing) exists to bring these churches back to the fold under a common religious banner. Even the Seventh Day Adventist church has been corrupted by the ecumenical movement.
The ecumenical movement is directly contrary to Christ's direction. We are commanded to come out of corruption and be separate.
Other churches have begun adopting certain aspects of Catholic doctrine. The big examples are the Trinity, Sunday worship (which most never left in the first place), advocacy for Sunday laws, the substitution of church tradition over Biblical law, celebacy in the priest hood (Paul specifically said priests should be married in 1 Timothy), belief that judgement comes in the moment of death (looking down from Heaven or roasting in Hell), etc.
The Seventh Day Adventist church accepted the Trinity doctrine back in 1980. They try to pretend it isn't the same as the Catholic doctrine and if you read the fine print, it isn't, but in a few decades it will be indistinguishable.
The Bible is pretty clear on the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. In the Gospel Christ says he will return to His apostles in Spirit and that He and His Father will be among them in Spirit. This is the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is Christ/God. It isn't a third being. The RCC teaches of a triune godhead which aligns with Babylonian, Egyptian, and Theban teaching, all of which have a sungod somewhere in their theology. In Babylonian, that's Tammuz. In Egyptian it is Amun-Ra (one step up from their trinity). In Theban it is Amun. What day did the Catholics "move the sanctity of the Sabbath" to? Sunday. Sunday was so-called because it is the day the Romans used to worship their sungod. What does Lucifer mean? Light-bringer.
Exekiel 8:13-16.
Good stuff thanks for putting this in here. Hope you had a good Passover!
Even with all of those changes.... if the churches are growing their number by the day, and millions are being brought to Christ.... is there really such a need to rally against the ecumenical movement?
There are groups that are doing it the right way. I'd point you to take a look at the Association of Related Churches (ARC), and see how you jive with their doctrine. No offense, but you seem the type to find something wrong with it regardless.
I think the biggest problem Christianity has had in the last 50 years is too many people saying "No, THIS is the right way to worship"... when really, all that needs to be said is, "But if not for Jesus...."
The problem with Protestantism today is that it is lukewarm. The Protestant clergy is feminized to the point of apologizing to the rest of the world for asserting any sort of belief that might hurt a non-believers' fee-fees.
We're coming out of that cycle and entering a new one. The kids coming up through the ranks in protestant churches today are on FIRE for Jesus. They grew up in this hyper-sensitive world, and they know what it takes to get around it. PASSION is what bypasses it. You can mince words if you want, but it won't get you anywhere. When you introduce true passion and joy into what you do, any subtleties that are being misunderstood or misappropriated, or are misaligned or misattributed - they fall to the wayside. And the true and real and living message is what sticks.
And that message is Jesus.
Your experience may differ, but I've not found one Protestant church with a televised service that wasn't spiritually compromised.
Definitely not a butt hurt catholic lol. Easter and christmas are not something churches should be doing and I see most protestant churches celebrating these things. How do you know? Well from what I see is our secular culture celebrates Christmas and Easter as well.
These come from pagan traditions, in the time these holidays were brought in to church is much like homosexuality and trans is being accepted in to churches now.
People should not be celebrating things that offend God.
My church celebrated Easter BIGLY. Hundreds received salvation. Our Easter broadcast was seen across the state on one of the primary news channels. It was an incredible move of the spirit. Anointed.
There was nothing we did on Sunday but celebrate the gift of Jesus. No egg hunting, no bunny rabbits, just Jesus. I do not believe we offended God, not even a little bit.
No, don’t throw stones at His church. Jesus said the gates of hell would not prevail against his church.
Well the Roman cathic church is not Jesus. Church. The entire body of born again believers are. That's the Bible talking not me. cleave to the Word of God and ditch the organizations.
I agree that the believers of Christ are the church.
In fact historically the church Christ founded certainly is the Catholic Church. He prayed that we all might be one, but worldly interests mislead millions who rejected his authority vested in his church and they chose to set themselves up as their own little popes - thus we now have tens of thousands of denominations; what a scandal to those seeking the truth.
To study history is to cease being Protestant - cardinal Henry Newman, convert from Anglicanism.
Then we have nothing worry about, fren.
Don’t wait for someone else to do all the cleaning. Get back to church, then ask God how you can help. You are part of his plan.
I believe Mother Angelica has preserved the Catholic Church through her Radio network.
She wouldn't take a dime from the Vatican and those who have followed after her have, thus far, resisted.
They begrudgingly accept what the Pope says, but every day I hear more and more the quivering in their voice in swallowing his nonsense.
Have faith, there are those set in place to pick up the pieces once the corruption is excised.