I’m not religious but I’m a massive Trump and Q follower. I see lots Christians on the board, any other atheists around here?
How do you view the religious factor in the Q movement?
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Agnostic: a person who believes that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God.
My issue is with nomenclature, not knowledge. It is that word implies that this is not and cannot be known- I reject that notion because 'gnosis' is the general foundation on which I build the rest of my life- that is why I cannot commit fully to the idea of purely faith. I come at this from an evidentiary standpoint and am in the process of accumulating enough evidence to make an informed decision to justify a faith (faith with eyes, not blind faith).
This does not make one without knowledge, nor does it give one a platform with which to make a judgement in full. Applying label words that don't fully sum up a persons state of mind (for me at least) is to be discouraged. Can I not reject agnosticism, atheism and anger and work on faith independently of these destructive titles?
sure! but not having enough evidence is just another way of saying you don't know yet. the jury is still out. from where you are, the state of not knowing seems limitless. but no one remains agnostic forever.
"work on faith" Faith is not something you have to practice having. You are ALWAYS placing your trust in something. The question is what you are placing your trust in. Just a thought :)
I trust just about nothing I'm afraid. Past experience.
Faith / knowledge are certainly not incompatible, but they are very different. Agnosticism, if I applied the label to myself would mean remaining there endlessly. I'm unprepared to enter a state of not knowing (although I am currently in that state I don't deem it absolute), when knowledge (gnosis) could still be gained without the use of faith (which to me currently is suspense of disbelief), which would be my preferred route. I'm inclined to think that He might not mind this stance if He created it all in the first place. To study this and find it based in fact would remove my need to trust (as this is an issue).
Thats more an ignostic definition than agnostic fren ?
Ignosticism or igtheism is the idea that the question of the existence of God is meaningless because the word "God" has no coherent and unambiguous definition.
Again, for me it is more fluid. I am trying to avoid labels, not find different ones.
I did just learn a new word though!