I’m not religious but I’m a massive Trump and Q follower. I see lots Christians on the board, any other atheists around here?
How do you view the religious factor in the Q movement?
I’m not religious but I’m a massive Trump and Q follower. I see lots Christians on the board, any other atheists around here?
How do you view the religious factor in the Q movement?
This is the "New" Atheism's definition. After Anthony Flew (the last of the true intellectual atheists), they had to redefine their position because defending a negative is too hard to do.
How could anyone state anything absolute about things that are unprovable? This is why it's a belief. We're talking about things we can't measure, observe and repeat. It's all within the realm of speculation.
Depends by what one means by "absolute" and "unprovable." There are many things that are unprovable in the mathematical sense (or even in the scientific sense) that you still believe to be true. For example, that Love exists. Or Beauty. Or Justice. Or Truth.
It's more of a preponderance of the evidence. The evidence, when taken collectively, points to a supreme Being that is extremely powerful, extremely intelligent, non-physical, and eternal. Getting awfully close to the Judeo-Christian description of who God is.
That may be your interpretation of things, but it's not mine.
You have to understand that I can, just like you, only sign off on things that make sense to me. Belief is then a product of many things other than desire or will to believe. Complicating things further, the god of the bible seems to judge people based on their beliefs... When clearly, beliefs are not ours entirely... There's many reasons people believe what they do and desire to believe what they do isn't even a thought. Peolple believe many things simply because their parents did, or because of social pressures for that time and era... We're products and we're more or less in the passenger seat while simultaneously thinking we're in the driver seat. And yet, the bible god wants to judge people based on their beliefs about him... which they may have had very little to even do with.
Rape, murder, torture, genocide, theft, lies etc... All forgivable... But gasp not believe in him? His ego just can't handle that. You get the eternal smoking section. It simply just too unforgivable...
Religion is too much an emotional issue... I see it here already... People popping off on me simply because I see things differently than they do. It's divisive as fuck and I just want everyone to get along despite what we think/believe about where we came from or where we go from here...
It's asking too much.
No ones popping off on you, bud. Just a healthy exchange if ideas.